# Does God Hate Marijuana?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 4, 2015, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834 "2015-04-04T21:40:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/81 "2015-04-05T19:56:32Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> I’ve been pro-pot since forever, but **Hypertiger** is starting to make me think twice.

Twice = 2

Pot = 2+1

Forever = Infinity

3 + Infinity = Infinity

Think about it…

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/82 "2015-04-05T20:01:08Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Twice = 2
> 
> Pot = 2+1
> 
> Forever = Infinity
> 
> 3 + Infinity = Infinity
> 
> Think about it…

doooooooooood…

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/83 "2015-04-05T20:02:07Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> 4-8-15-16-23-42

Just when this thread was starting to make sense, I Lost you on that one.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/84 "2015-04-05T20:05:02Z")

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Pot = 420

Matthew 4:20 says, “At once they left their nets and followed him.”

Matthew = Pot dealer.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/85 "2015-04-05T20:13:15Z")

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**Hypertiger** , so where does GOD get His power?

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/86 "2015-04-05T20:13:43Z")

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Hypertiger has managed to make a thread about pot BORING :mad:

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**Author:** ![Hypertiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/858c86/32.png) [@Hypertiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypertiger)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/87 "2015-04-05T20:14:43Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
>
> This is what happens when you practice numerology, if not an expert like HyperTiger. Here’s as far as my training intuits…
> 
> Michael = 51, the 233 prime and also the atomic number for the element antimony.
> 
> Its atomic weight being 121.760.
> 
> 121/760 = .1592
> 
> reverse = 2951
> 
> 2\*9 = 18
> 
> Luke 18:29 says, “So He said to them, “Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or parents or brothers or wife or children, for the sake of the kingdom of God,”
> 
> 51 = Michael
> 
> So, Michael here still lives with his parents.

Antimony is like anti money

“Counting Stars” is a song by American pop rock band OneRepublic from their third studio album, Native (2013). "

51 is a pentagonal number as well as a centered pentagonal number (one of the few numbers to be both)

Pentagonal like a star.

[Counting stars](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT_nvWreIhg)

the Video is 4:44 long.

55.5 doubled is 111 doubled is 222 doubled is 444 doubled is 1776.

I was born March 5th, 1971.

3/5/71 = 3571 = 500th prime

There are 121 days from March 5th to July 4th.

121 = [star number](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_number)

"July 4 is the 185th day of the year (186th in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. There are 180 days remaining until the end of the year.

37 x 5 = 185

180 feet = 55 meters.

The Aphelion, the point in the year when the Earth is farthest from the Sun, occurs around this date."

“May 1 is the 121st day of the year (122nd in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. There are 244 days remaining until the end of the year.”

1971 was the peak of the 7th solar cycle or 11.7 years of the 20th century

20th prime is 71

the peak of the 20th solar cycle since the count began in 1755

march 5th is the 64th day

64/9 = 7.11

From July 4th 1776 to march 5th 1971 is 71100 days.

From March 4th to July 4th is 122 days…

“May 1 is the 121st day of the year (122nd in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. There are 244 days remaining until the end of the year.”

122 x 2 = 244

122 x 3 = 366 or the number of days in a leap year…like 1776

“The Illuminati (plural of Latin illuminatus, “enlightened”) is a name given to several groups, both real and fictitious. Historically, the name refers to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1, 1776.”

March 4th was the original inauguration date of the 1789 US Constitution…

March 4th is 4 months from july 4th or 444

March 4th = 3/4

3 x 4 = 12

37 x 12 = 444

“March 4th, 51 AD – Nero, later to become Roman emperor, is given the title princeps iuventutis (head of the youth).”

“Princeps (plural: principes) is a Latin word meaning “first in time or order; the first, chief, the most eminent, distinguished, or noble; the first man, first person.””

“Princeps (in this sense usually translated as “First Citizen”) was an official title of a Roman Emperor as the title determining the leader in Ancient Rome at the beginning of the Roman Empire. It created the principate Roman imperial system”

“It was first given as a special title to Caesar Augustus in 27 BC, who saw that use of the titles rex (king) or dictator would create resentment amongst senators and other influential men, who had earlier demonstrated their disapproval by supporting the assassination of Julius Caesar.”

I do not live in my mother’s basement…nice try.

The inauguration date was changed in 1933…to January 20th, by the 20th amendment.

“January 20 is the 20th day of the year in the Gregorian calendar. There are 345 days remaining until the end of the year”

1/20

120 = illuminati

345+543 = 888 x 2 = 1776

In the ancient astronomy, it is the cusp day between Capricorn and Aquarius. In some years it is Aquarius, but others Capricorn. It depends on the year."  
20th prime = 71

I was born 3/5/71

3571 = 500th prime

3571+1753 = 5324/4 = 1331

hypertiger = 131

11 x 11 x 11 = 1331

11 x 11 = 121

121 x 11 = 1331

1933+3391 = 5324/4 = 1331

WW 1 ended on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.

or 11/11

11 x 11 = 121 = the 5th [star number](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_number)

My first name is Michael = 51  
My last name is Leopard = 71

51+71 = 122

Hypertiger = 131

122+131 = 253 = the 7th [star number](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_number)

This is the straight dope…

I have been fighting against ignorant game playing posters on the Internet for it’s entire existence

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/88 "2015-04-05T20:18:23Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> Just when this thread was starting to make sense, I Lost you on that one.

Well, it’s complicated!

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/89 "2015-04-05T20:22:27Z")

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> [@Hypertiger](#):
>
> Antimony is like anti money
> 
> “Counting Stars” is a song by American pop rock band OneRepublic from their third studio album, Native (2013). "
> 
> 51 is a pentagonal number as well as a centered pentagonal number (one of the few numbers to be both)
> 
> Pentagonal like a star.
> 
> [Counting stars](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT_nvWreIhg)
> 
> the Video is 4:44 long.
> 
> 55.5 doubled is 111 doubled is 222 doubled is 444 doubled is 1776.
> 
> I was born March 5th, 1971.
> 
> 3/5/71 = 3571 = 500th prime
> 
> There are 121 days from March 5th to July 4th.
> 
> 121 = [star number](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_number)
> 
> "July 4 is the 185th day of the year (186th in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. There are 180 days remaining until the end of the year.
> 
> 37 x 5 = 185
> 
> 180 feet = 55 meters.
> 
> The Aphelion, the point in the year when the Earth is farthest from the Sun, occurs around this date."
> 
> “May 1 is the 121st day of the year (122nd in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. There are 244 days remaining until the end of the year.”
> 
> 1971 was the peak of the 7th solar cycle or 11.7 years of the 20th century
> 
> 20th prime is 71
> 
> the peak of the 20th solar cycle since the count began in 1755
> 
> march 5th is the 64th day
> 
> 64/9 = 7.11
> 
> From July 4th 1776 to march 5th 1971 is 71100 days.
> 
> From March 4th to July 4th is 122 days…
> 
> “May 1 is the 121st day of the year (122nd in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. There are 244 days remaining until the end of the year.”
> 
> 122 x 2 = 244
> 
> 122 x 3 = 366 or the number of days in a leap year…like 1776
> 
> “The Illuminati (plural of Latin illuminatus, “enlightened”) is a name given to several groups, both real and fictitious. Historically, the name refers to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1, 1776.”
> 
> March 4th was the original inauguration date of the 1789 US Constitution…
> 
> March 4th is 4 months from july 4th or 444
> 
> March 4th = 3/4
> 
> 3 x 4 = 12
> 
> 37 x 12 = 444
> 
> “March 4th, 51 AD – Nero, later to become Roman emperor, is given the title princeps iuventutis (head of the youth).”
> 
> “Princeps (plural: principes) is a Latin word meaning “first in time or order; the first, chief, the most eminent, distinguished, or noble; the first man, first person.””
> 
> “Princeps (in this sense usually translated as “First Citizen”) was an official title of a Roman Emperor as the title determining the leader in Ancient Rome at the beginning of the Roman Empire. It created the principate Roman imperial system”
> 
> “It was first given as a special title to Caesar Augustus in 27 BC, who saw that use of the titles rex (king) or dictator would create resentment amongst senators and other influential men, who had earlier demonstrated their disapproval by supporting the assassination of Julius Caesar.”
> 
> I do not live in my mother’s basement…nice try.
> 
> The inauguration date was changed in 1933…to January 20th, by the 20th amendment.
> 
> “January 20 is the 20th day of the year in the Gregorian calendar. There are 345 days remaining until the end of the year”
> 
> 1/20
> 
> 120 = illuminati
> 
> 345+543 = 888 x 2 = 1776
> 
> In the ancient astronomy, it is the cusp day between Capricorn and Aquarius. In some years it is Aquarius, but others Capricorn. It depends on the year."  
> 20th prime = 71
> 
> I was born 3/5/71
> 
> 3571 = 500th prime
> 
> 3571+1753 = 5324/4 = 1331
> 
> hypertiger = 131
> 
> 11 x 11 x 11 = 1331
> 
> 11 x 11 = 121
> 
> 121 x 11 = 1331
> 
> 1933+3391 = 5324/4 = 1331
> 
> WW 1 ended on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.
> 
> or 11/11
> 
> 11 x 11 = 121 = the 5th [star number](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_number)
> 
> My first name is Michael = 51  
> My last name is Leopard = 71
> 
> 51+71 = 122
> 
> Hypertiger = 131
> 
> 122+131 = 253 = the 7th [star number](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_number)
> 
> This is the straight dope…
> 
> I have been fighting against ignorant game playing posters on the Internet for it’s entire existence

Quoth DrDeth: That’s the drugs talking.

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**Author:** ![Hypertiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/858c86/32.png) [@Hypertiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypertiger)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/90 "2015-04-05T20:26:42Z")

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GOD is power or Truth = the source or supply of power

Satan is a lie that wants to be Truth or GOD = the demand for power.

GOD does not supply Satan with what Satan wants…only what Satan needs.

That is where you all come into play…since you all are supplied with power by GOD.

Satan uses what power Satan has to deceive all of you into believing Satan is GOD and if you all choose to be deceived and supply Satan or the lie you believe is GOD or Truth with power.

Satan becomes more powerful and you all become less powerful.

Over time you all become all powerless and Satan or the lie you worship as Truth or GOD becomes all powerful and rules you all.

My name is Michael…I know Truth so I know where power comes from and GOD is power.

Satan is ignorant of Truth or GOD and constantly asks me where GOD obtains all the power of GOD from.

But when I try to cause Satan or ignorance incarnate to become knowledgeable of GOD.

Satan becomes upset and tries to annihilate me for refusing to supply what Satan wants.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/91 "2015-04-05T20:26:59Z")

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> [@Hypertiger](#):
>
> I have been fighting against ignorant game playing posters on the Internet for it’s entire existence

I believe you. I checked out your blog. Mostly crazy screeds but good call decrying the housing bubble back in 2006.

Guys, you aren’t going to wear him out and I can’t see how it could be fun trying.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/92 "2015-04-05T20:43:02Z")

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> [@Hypertiger](#):
>
> My name is Michael…I know Truth so I know where power comes from and GOD is power.

“Believe those who seek the truth; doubt those who find it.” _~~Andre Gide_

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**Author:** ![Hypertiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/858c86/32.png) [@Hypertiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypertiger)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/93 "2015-04-05T20:49:23Z")

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“Believe those who seek the truth; doubt those who find it.”

Yes believe those who went to Iraq seeking Truth…But when they find it and come back in zip lock baggies…doubt them?

Is that the moral of the story.

How about the story of Cain and Abel?

Go to war Abel bodied.

Comeback from war handicapped using a Cain.

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/94 "2015-04-05T20:49:31Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
>
> [Ergot](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergot#History), perhaps.
> 
> Come to think of it, was smoking marijuana even a known practice in the MENA in OT times?

The first actual reference to the smoking of hemp-seed is in Herodotus, among the Scythians. As far as I know, it was never practiced in the ME - though of course, it is not impossible.

According to the historian, the Scythians would use the smoke for a “steam bath” - he seems not to have quite understood its properties:

> [@](#):
>
> Hemp grows in Scythia: it is very like flax; only that it is a much coarser and taller plant: some grows wild about the country, some is produced by cultivation: the Thracians make garments of it which closely resemble linen; so much so, indeed, that if a person has never seen hemp he is sure to think they are linen, and if he has, unless he is very experienced in such matters, he will not know of which material they are.
> 
> The Scythians, as I said, take some of this hemp-seed, and, creeping under the felt coverings, throw it upon the red-hot stones; immediately it smokes, and gives out such a vapour as no Grecian vapour-bath can exceed; the Scyths, delighted, shout for joy, and this vapour serves them instead of a water-bath; for they never by any chance wash their bodies with water.

> **[The Internet Classics Archive | The History of Herodotus by Herodotus](http://classics.mit.edu/Herodotus/history.4.iv.html)**
>
> The History of Herodotus by Herodotus, part of the Internet Classics Archive

Those Scythians must have smelled a treat! 😃 :eek:

Since then, actual Scythian artifacts have been found that confirm this account - I saw a display of Scythian “hemp steam bath” equipment in a museum display on the Scythians.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/95 "2015-04-05T20:55:10Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
>
> Those Scythians must have smelled a treat! 😃 :eek:

As long as they didn’t try to cover it up with patchouli, I’m fine with it.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/96 "2015-04-05T20:55:18Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
>
> [Presence of drugs in different tissues of an egyptian mummy | Analytical and Bioanalytical Chemistry](http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF00322236)
> 
> That’s an abstract to an article about researchers finding THC in an Egyptian mummy from 950 BC.

Ah yes, the “cocaine mummies”. I remain interested, but skeptical.

> **[What’s up with the “cocaine mummies”?](https://www.straightdope.com/21343513/what-s-up-with-the-cocaine-mummies)**

> **[Pre-Columbian transoceanic contact theories](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Columbian_trans-oceanic_contact_theories#Claims_of_Egyptian_coca_and_tobacco)**
>
> Pre-Columbian transoceanic contact theories are speculative theories which propose that visits to the Americas, interactions with the Indigenous peoples of the Americas, or both, were made by people from elsewhere prior to Christopher Columbus's first voyage to the Caribbean in 1492. Studies between 2004 and 2009 suggest the possibility that the earliest human migrations to the Americas may have been made by boat from Beringia and travel down the Pacific coast, contemporary with and possibly p...

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/97 "2015-04-05T20:57:59Z")

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> [@andros](#):
>
> As long as they didn’t try to cover it up with patchouli, I’m fine with it.

Funny you should say that - I left off the next sentence:

> [@](#):
>
> The Scythians, as I said, take some of this hemp-seed, and, creeping under the felt coverings, throw it upon the red-hot stones; immediately it smokes, and gives out such a vapour as no Grecian vapour-bath can exceed; the Scyths, delighted, shout for joy, and this vapour serves them instead of a water-bath; for they never by any chance wash their bodies with water. Their women make a mixture of cypress, cedar, and frankincense wood, which they pound into a paste upon a rough piece of stone, adding a little water to it. With this substance, which is of a thick consistency, they plaster their faces all over, and indeed their whole bodies. A sweet odour is thereby imparted to them, and when they take off the plaster on the day following, their skin is clean and glossy.

_Sorta_ like patchouli … 😉

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/98 "2015-04-05T21:03:24Z")

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In that case, fuck those hippies.

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-hate-marijuana/716834/99 "2015-04-05T21:23:18Z")

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Apparently all the mods are out collecting easter eggs.

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> [@Hypertiger](#):
>
> Yes believe those who went to Iraq seeking Truth…

Let me be clear. I doubt you.

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