# Does God love America above all countries?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [July 4, 2003, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210 "2003-07-04T08:26:29Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Major\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Major_Kong)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/1 "2003-07-04T08:26:29Z")
I have heard a few people say (not here) God loves America above all countries. And that America is the new Israel. Is their **any** biblical reason for this belief? Anybody here who believes this who is willing to explain this belief?
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### Author:  [@MC\_Master\_of\_Ceremonies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MC_Master_of_Ceremonies)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/2 "2003-07-04T09:18:39Z")
No, the belief is a relgious form of what is known as **jingoism**.
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### Author:  [@Aro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aro)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/3 "2003-07-04T09:26:10Z")
Maybe they got the idea from this [song](http://www.patmccurdy.com/cgi-bin/lyrics/view.cgi?God). Or not. đ
Anyone wish to bet as to whether or not the USA is actually mentioned in the Bible at all?
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### Author:  [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/4 "2003-07-04T09:45:38Z")
So God loves the USA but he lives in France and heâs on the side of the German Wehrmacht.
Sounds typical enough.
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### Author:  [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/5 "2003-07-04T12:12:23Z")
Of course He does. Whereâs the debate?
When Iâve heard similar things, theyâve been associated with this:
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> [Washingtonâs visit with an angel](http://www.snopes.com/language/document/vision.htm)
> You have doubtless heard the story of Washingtonâs going to the thicket to pray. Well, he also used to pray to God in secret for aid and comfort.
> When he came out, I noticed that his face was a shade paler than usual, and there seemed to be something on his mind of more than ordinary importance.
When I heard abouty it the fella who was talking about it said that if not for Washingtonâs vision he would go insane. So, I immediately linked to snopes and several Revolutionary War web sites. At that point, he was only able to preserve his sanity by saying, âAbsence of evidence is not evdence of absence.â
He also belived that the Illuminati was out to get America. The invasion of Iraq was going to lead to a weakening of the USâs defenses by having so many of out troops over seas and the Socialist Sodomite Nations would subsequently invade. Or something like that.
Anyway, Iâve not heard from him in quite a while.
As I understand it, there were similar rumors about England going around a while back.
Some people even decided that England was the Holy Land and that some conspiracy plotted to convince everyone that the Holy Land was instead in the Levant.
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### Author:  [@trabi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/trabi)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/6 "2003-07-04T12:40:42Z")
If God loved America he wouldnât have peopled it with Americans.
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### Author:  [@Tarantula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarantula)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/7 "2003-07-04T12:51:02Z")
This should be in a new SDMB Forum called âMoronic Questionsâ.
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### Author:  [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/8 "2003-07-04T12:52:25Z")
Funny I thought God was busy Keeping my land Glorious and FreeâŚ
But if you want to believe he has time to bless your nation⌠you can⌠(Turns to the side crosses eyes and makes a circular motion around his temple with his finger)
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### Author:  [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/9 "2003-07-04T12:56:32Z")
**MajorK** ,
You may have to look elsewhere for someone who holds that belief.
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### Author:  [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/10 "2003-07-04T12:57:34Z")
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> \*Originally posted by trabi \*
> \*\*If God loved America he wouldnât have peopled it with Americans. \*\*
Yes, well he doesnât look like a very rational being.
He also loves the Jews and where does he people _them_?
In Israel, of all places!!
I mean have you read his book? JeezâŚ
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### Author:  [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/11 "2003-07-04T13:04:03Z")
**trabi** Iâd stick to basketball đ
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### Author:  [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/12 "2003-07-04T14:14:31Z")
If anything, God is probably disgusted by America.
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### Author:  [@3waygeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3waygeek)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/13 "2003-07-04T14:47:28Z")
Considering [this picture](http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030630.html?list=true), taken by an American satellite and displayed on a US Government website, Iâd say Godâs not too happy with the universe as a whole. đ
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### Author:  [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/14 "2003-07-04T14:53:43Z")
If God loves America above all others, why did he allow 9/11 to happen?
Think about it. If anything, God is freakinâ PISSED at our country. (And for good reason, IMO.)
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### Author:  [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/15 "2003-07-04T15:27:09Z")
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> As you know, God is generally on the side of the big squadrons against the small ones.
> âRoger De Bussy-Rabutin (1618â1693), French soldier, writer. letter, Oct. 18, 1677.
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> God is not on the side of the big battalions, but on the side of those who shoot best.
> âVoltaire
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> Every man thinks God is on his side. The rich and powerful know he is.
> âJean Anouilh (1910â1987), French playwright.
Godâs on the side of those with the better generals and bigger cannons.
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### Author:  [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/16 "2003-07-04T15:36:32Z")
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> \*Originally posted by KGS \*
> \*\*If God loves America above all others, why did he allow 9/11 to happen?
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> Think about it. If anything, God is freakinâ PISSED at our country. (And for good reason, IMO.) \*\*
Job got tired of hearinâ that kind of thing all the time.
His chosen people sure have had it rough.
**Not all human action is directly ascribable to God.** Some of it is human initiated.
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### Author:  [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/17 "2003-07-04T15:42:51Z")
Since no one is taking this all that seriously, hereâs a Canadian views. đ
The Lord and Michael and watching creation when God turns to Michael. âWatch this, Iâm going to craft a beautiful country filled with majestic mountains, clear waters, towering trees and vast grasslands filled with all manner of creatures. The people will be filled with love for one another, gentle humour and a deep sensec of peace.â Michael looks impressed. âBut Lord, how can you so blatantly bless such a people?â âNot to worryâ God replies, âlook who Iâm giving them as neighbourghs.â
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### Author:  [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/18 "2003-07-04T15:50:00Z")
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> \*Originally posted by SimonX \*
> **Not all human action is directly ascribable to God.** Some of it is human initiated.
Well I donât believe in G-d anyway, so what I said was merely for argumentâs sake.
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> **His chosen people sure have had it rough.**
If I may be so bold to speak my mind (and risk a âPittingâ), maybe the Jews would have had it easier over the last 6,000 years if they didnât complain so goddamn much.
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### Author:  [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/19 "2003-07-04T15:55:31Z")
No. Most definitely please, speak your mind and let us all hear about this uppity Jewishness business.
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### Author:  [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2003, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-love-america-above-all-countries/186210/20 "2003-07-04T15:58:25Z")
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> \*Originally posted by KGS \*
> \*\* âŚmaybe the Jews would have had it easier over the last 6,000 years if they didnât complain so goddamn much. \*\*
How so?
Just because they wouldnâtâve had to listen to each other?
Or are you saying that their complaining somehow has led to, caused, or otherwise contributed to their persecutions thoughout history and around the globe?
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