# Does God sin?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-sin/283176>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [January 5, 2005, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-sin/283176 "2005-01-05T08:19:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-sin/283176/41 "2005-01-06T15:15:47Z")

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> [@David Simmons](#):
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> God, for some reason, has abandoned direct miracles and gone to working His wonders through agents?

They made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.

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**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-god-sin/283176/42 "2005-01-06T15:17:22Z")

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> [@David Simmons](#):
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> I’m with \*_Apos_. If God has the power to kill a child to inspire someone to seek a cure for some disease then He surely has the power to do the inspiration directly with using a foil. Or He has the power to eliminate the disease directly. And it doesn’t do any good to insist that the disease came about because of Original Sin. I don’t think mankind has improved all that much over the last 6000 years that the disease sould have been allowed to persist all that time but should be eliminated now.
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> Same objection to the example of the child’s purpose in life. God could achieve that purpose directly and in the early days did. The parting of the Red Sea, manna, and many other miracles are described. God, for some reason, has abandoned direct miracles and gone to working His wonders through agents?

Well, I’m not going to invoke Original Sin.

I’ll state the same thing that I stated in the thread where the matter originally came up - I don’t have all the answers. I posed them as hypotheticals as to why what happens happens. It certainly does not have to be the actual reason and you can certainly rebut my hypotheticals.

The bottom line is that God does what He does for reasons only He knows. I also understand that ultimately, it comes down to my own personal beliefs. I don’t beleive that God’s existence can be proven, let alone His reasons for doing things understood. As such, I stand on my beliefs and can only present them as I believe them.

Zev Steinhardt

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