# Does having this really work for strong bones and strong joint?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 21, 2015, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-having-this-really-work-for-strong-bones-and-strong-joint/732052 "2015-09-21T01:16:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![sweat209](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@sweat209](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweat209)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-having-this-really-work-for-strong-bones-and-strong-joint/732052/21 "2015-09-23T15:28:19Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> How can someone so concerned about such things believe vegetables 3-4 times a week is anywhere near enough for good health, never mind healthy joints?
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> Shouldn’t you address that before worrying about the rest?

Why? Because most Americans are lucky to get 10 minutes of walking exercise in day and eat fruit and vegetable once or if you lucky two times in week. Than you have here comes honey boo boo types that may not have it hardly at all.

And if there lucky have peanut butter jam sandwich or cheap junk food cereal like Froot Loops!! Or miss the morning breakfast.

And if you live in Texas’s with adult obesity rate at currently 31.9% eating burger and fries the big servings .  
Unless you a food nutrition no one eats 4 to 6 small times in a day with fruit and vegetables many times in day.

Most Americans eat two or three big serving in a day than 4 to 6 small serving in day. And if you a honey boo boo types you may add two or three times of day of eating junk food.

The Healthcare recommendation of 4 to 6 fruit and vegetables servings in day is beyond laughable. You would not even eat that many times in day!! Even trying to eat 4 to 6 ice cream cones in day would be hard for most Americans unless you where honey boo boo types with big stomach for food cravings all the time.

If the Healthcare recommendation had one or two fruit and vegetables servings in day I think many Americans could fit this in. And long with eating 4 to 5 smaller food servings in a day than two or three big servings in a day.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-having-this-really-work-for-strong-bones-and-strong-joint/732052/22 "2015-09-23T15:49:46Z")

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> [@sweat209](#):
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> The Healthcare recommendation of 4 to 6 fruit and vegetables servings in day is beyond laughable. You would not even eat that many times in day!!

4 to 6 servings, not 4 to 6 meals. “Serving” has a very specific meaning in this case; each type of food has a certain quantity which the FDA has defined as a “serving” of that food. If you read the Nutrition Facts on the back of a package of food, it’ll tell you how much is considered to be a “serving”. The meals that most people eat will contain multiple “servings” of foods (though maybe only one serving, or less, of any particular food).

Assuming you eat 3 meals in a day, the recommendation means “in each meal you eat, you should try to get one to two servings of fruit and vegetables”. That may mean two different fruits / vegetables within a meal, it may mean one big “serving” of a vegetable which is effectively two “servings”, etc.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-having-this-really-work-for-strong-bones-and-strong-joint/732052/23 "2015-09-23T16:42:37Z")

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I eat 3-4 servings of fruit and vegetables everyday. Without any effort at all. As do most of the people I know.

It’s as easy as: a banana with breakfast, some salad with lunch, fruit snack mid afternoon, vegetable with dinner, fruit with desert.

Laugh away!

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-having-this-really-work-for-strong-bones-and-strong-joint/732052/24 "2015-09-23T18:18:06Z")

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> [@sweat209](#):
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> If the Healthcare recommendation had one or two fruit and vegetables servings in day I think many Americans could fit this in. And long with eating 4 to 5 smaller food servings in a day than two or three big servings in a day.

Do you ever read the links posted in your threads? Perhaps you should educate yourself on the subject at hand before going off on another rant?

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-having-this-really-work-for-strong-bones-and-strong-joint/732052/25 "2015-09-23T20:40:39Z")

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> [@sweat209](#):
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> Why? Because most Americans are lucky to get 10 minutes of walking exercise in day and eat fruit and vegetable once or if you lucky two times in week. …

For those who care … most Americans do not exercise as much as is advised and do not eat as much vegetables and fruits as are advised, but this bleak it aint.

[Regarding exercise](http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6217a2.htm?s_cid=mm6217a2_w)

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> 51.6% met the aerobic activity guideline and 29.3% of U.S. adults met the muscle-strengthening guideline

But only “20.6% of U.S. adults were classified as meeting both the aerobic and muscle-strengthening guidelines”

[Regarding vegetables and fruits](http://www.pbhfoundation.org/pdfs/about/res/pbh_res/stateplate.pdf)

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> The average person consumes 1.8 cups of fruits and vegetables per day

The advised standard actually currently varies by age, gender and activity level but centers around 5 cups a day; relatively few hit it. Pretty stable numbers since at least 1999.

[Serving sizes](http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Caregiver/Replenish/WhatisaServing/What-is-a-Serving_UCM_301838_Article.jsp) per the AHA:

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> Vegetables: 1 cup of raw leafy vegetables (about the size of a small fist), 1/2 cup of other vegetables or 1/2 cup of vegetable juice.
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> Fruits: 1 medium fruit (medium is defined as the size of a baseball); 1/2 cup chopped, cooked or canned fruit; or 1/2 cup juice. …
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> … A serving is a lot smaller than most people think.

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