# Does "Joe The Plumber" have a PAC? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 16, 2008, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-joe-the-plumber-have-a-pac/468142 "2008-10-16T03:08:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-joe-the-plumber-have-a-pac/468142/61 "2008-10-16T21:21:23Z")
He may or may not have a PAC, but methinks that if he keeps this shit up he’ll need a legal defense fund someday. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-joe-the-plumber-have-a-pac/468142/62 "2008-10-16T21:27:44Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I believe, my friends, that McCain knows exactly how Joe will buy the company. He has a plan for how Joe will acquire that company, my friends. Just as long as Joe doesn’t plaster on the putty with a trowel, the cunt. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-joe-the-plumber-have-a-pac/468142/63 "2008-10-16T21:34:38Z")
Hey my grandfather was a plumber, and it kept him employed during the Depression, so plumbing might be a good thing to be into these days. (He was a union member and Democrat, so he wasn’t a real American, of course.) As for Joe being a tax dodger - looks like anything McCain touches turns to shit, doesn’t it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-joe-the-plumber-have-a-pac/468142/64 "2008-10-18T01:29:06Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I believe, my friends, that McCain knows exactly how Joe will buy the company. He has a plan for how Joe will acquire that company, my friends. _Root for ‘Joe the Plumber’, Thats the Name…! (As Away goes the Economy, Down the Drain…!)_ ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-joe-the-plumber-have-a-pac/468142/65 "2008-10-18T03:01:55Z")
I’m still with Joe the Plumber. He’s a true American hero. He hates regulation and wants government off his back. Why should plumbers be licensed? Why should surgeons or electricians be licensed? Why shouldn’t everyone be able to do a shitty job and screw anybody else at their will by pretending to be something they are not? Palin is the poster child, she says she can run the world so why should anyone look at credentials? Also, this bit about paying taxes is total bullshit. As Leona Helmsley said, “Taxes are for the little people.” JTP wants to be a shaker and mover, why should we burden him with taxes? As for voting, I lived in Chicago. Vote early and vote often. Forget shit like being being actually registered under your true name. Joe the Plumber is my guy. If he doesn’t have a PAC then I’ll set one up. To donate, send me a private message and I’ll tell who to make the check out to and where to send the money. Go JTP! **McCain = Ready, Fire, Aim** ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-joe-the-plumber-have-a-pac/468142/66 "2008-10-18T10:15:31Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > This guy’s a fucking moron, that’s all. He currently makes $40,000 a year, which means he’s going to get tax cuts. He’s bitching because someday, when he buys this business he’s not licensed to run, he \*may \*make $250,000 or more. > > [Wurzelbacher, 34, said he doesn’t have a good plan put together on how he would buy Newell Plumbing and Heating in nearby Toledo. > > He said the business consists of owner Al Newell and him. Wurzelbacher said he’s worked there for six years and that the two have talked about his taking it over at some point. > > “There’s a lot I’ve got to learn,” he said. > > \ > > In Toledo on Sunday, Wurzelbacher told Obama that he was preparing to buy the plumbing company, which earns more than $250,000 a year, and said: “Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” > > Obama said that under his proposal taxes on any revenue from $250,000 on down would stay the same, but that amounts above that level would be subject to a 39 percent tax, instead of the current 36 percent rate. > > Wurzelbacher said Obama’s tax plan wouldn’t affect him right now, because he doesn’t make $250,000. “But I hope someday I’ll make that,” he said.]([http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081016/ap\_on\_el\_pr/joe\_the\_plumber](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081016/ap_on_el_pr/joe_the_plumber)) > [To make matters worse, the Blade also found that the Ohio Department of Taxation placed a lien against Joe because $1,183 in personal property taxes had not been paid. To pile on, the paper disclosed, based on divorce records, Joe’s 2006 income — $40,000, hardly enough to qualify for the tax hike he’s so concerned about.](http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcb_election2008/20081016/wl_mcb_election2008/mccaindidjoetheplumbernofavors) > Sounds like a real prince, there. I get the impression that this Joe guy was a plant, set up by McCain operatives. But in any case, he was interviewed, and said that Obama was “tap dancing” in his response–“like Sammy Davis.” Huh? Why Sammy Davis? I guess he did some tap dancing, but that’s not the first person I think of as a tap dancer. Maybe Fred Astaire? ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-joe-the-plumber-have-a-pac/468142/67 "2008-10-18T10:33:57Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > This guy’s a fucking moron, that’s all. He currently makes $40,000 a year, which means he’s going to get tax cuts. He’s bitching because someday, when he buys this business he’s not licensed to run, he \*may \*make $250,000 or more. In my observation, that’s the typical Republican right there. Thinks he’s going to be rich one day, carps about taxes he’s never going to owe. When he fails to get rich, he claims it’s because the Democrats provided a disincentive by raising his future taxes. He sits back, cracks a beer, and blames minorities and illegal immigrants. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-joe-the-plumber-have-a-pac/468142.md?page=3)