# Does Karl Rove have election tricks up his sleeve? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 4, 2006, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-karl-rove-have-election-tricks-up-his-sleeve/379113 "2006-11-04T20:01:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-karl-rove-have-election-tricks-up-his-sleeve/379113/41 "2006-11-06T21:54:18Z")
[QUOTE=What the … !!!] Define “dirty tricks” … would the voter fraud (indictments have been made already) in Missouri by ACORN qualify? I’d go find a cite but you are so intelligent and well-researched that you don’t need it. 😉 [/QUOTE] Nice of you. After wending my way through all the blogs, I’ve found a [cite](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15238916/), which does not mention that indictments have occurred. Yes, this would be a dirty trick. Happy now? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-karl-rove-have-election-tricks-up-his-sleeve/379113/42 "2006-11-06T21:55:41Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] Nice of you. After wending my way through all the blogs, I’ve found a [cite](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15238916/), which does not mention that indictments have occurred. [/QUOTE] Linky no worky. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-karl-rove-have-election-tricks-up-his-sleeve/379113/43 "2006-11-06T21:59:00Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Linky no worky. [/QUOTE] Dunno why not. Here’s the first paragraph: > [@](#): > > ST. LOUIS - Election officials say hundreds of potentially bogus registration cards, including ones for dead and underage people, were submitted by a branch of a national group that has been criticized in the past for similar offenses. At least 1,500 potentially fraudulent registration cards were turned in by the St. Louis branch of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, leading up to Wednesday’s registration deadline for the Nov. 7 election, said Kim Mathis, chairwoman of the St. Louis City Board of Election Commissioners. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-karl-rove-have-election-tricks-up-his-sleeve/379113/44 "2006-11-06T22:03:32Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Linky no worky. [/QUOTE] Worky for me. Here’s another: [ACORN Applauds FBI Investigation Of Individuals Connected To Possible Miscondcut In K.C. Voter Registration Drive](http://www.commondreams.org/news2006/1106-05.htm) That’s from yesterday. People are under investigation, fired, but AFAIK, no charges yet. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-karl-rove-have-election-tricks-up-his-sleeve/379113/45 "2006-11-06T23:32:59Z")
[QUOTE=Evil Captor] You know better than that, John. [No, he didn’t.](http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0828-08.htm) A few details were off, but he got the essence of it, alrighty. [/QUOTE] Well, by that standard I can claim that [Kerry](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=855529&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312) said he hates every Republican he’s ever known. OK? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Octagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@The\_Octagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Octagon)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-karl-rove-have-election-tricks-up-his-sleeve/379113/46 "2006-11-07T01:40:48Z")
[QUOTE=Johanna] . Republicans have been seriously hammered in the polls for over a month now–but Rove and Bush still seem oddly confident, even complacent, that they won’t lose on Tuesday. [/QUOTE] This is roughly the same attitude John Kerry had this time two years ago. The only difference is Kerry was saying ‘Don’t show me the polls’ and Rove is saying ‘you’re reading it wrong, I’m right.’ ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-karl-rove-have-election-tricks-up-his-sleeve/379113/47 "2006-11-07T03:18:22Z")
[QUOTE=Evil Captor] If liberal complaints were confined to the kind of simplistic generalities you’re dealing in, you’d have a point. But we don’t. We complain about the deliberate use of bogus felon rolls compiled by ChoicePoint to suppress tens of thousands of black voters in Florida in 2000. We complain about very well-documented hackability of Diebold voting machines and the very suspicious returns in Ohio in 2004 that would lead any person to suspect hacking. We complain about Karl Rove because he has a long and well-known history of political dirty tricks. We complain about these and many other very specific issues. Frankly, given the lengthy and well-documented history of Republican dirty-tricksterism, we’d be just plain dumb NOT to complain. But thanks for playing. [/QUOTE] Yeah…you’re right. Looking through this thread (and comparable ones), I see no paranoia at all. Nothing but rational, well-founded, well-grounded concerns. What could I have been thinking? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![initech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/439d5e/32.png) [@initech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/initech)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-karl-rove-have-election-tricks-up-his-sleeve/379113/48 "2006-11-07T10:23:49Z")
[QUOTE=astorian] Yeah…you’re right. Looking through this thread (and comparable ones), I see no paranoia at all. Nothing but rational, well-founded, well-grounded concerns. What could I have been thinking? :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] You could have been thinking of a better response. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-karl-rove-have-election-tricks-up-his-sleeve/379113/49 "2006-11-07T14:31:33Z")
[QUOTE=initech] You could have been thinking of a better response. [/QUOTE] Oh, SNAP! 🙂 -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-karl-rove-have-election-tricks-up-his-sleeve/379113/50 "2006-11-07T15:09:54Z")
Michael Moore expressed quite commonsensically what I think about this issue, from his message “five reasons why you should vote”: 1. IN ORDER TO CATCH THE REPUBLICANS STEALING YOUR VOTE, YOU FIRST HAVE TO VOTE. There are huge and valid concerns about the new electronic voting machines that must be addressed. It is far too easy to use new technology to rig the vote. But if your fear of that leads you to decide that you shouldn’t bother voting, well, **then, I guess they’ve succeeded in snuffing out your voice without having to rig the machine.** Make them break the law if they want to win. Vote. We’ll catch them if they do. I promise. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2006, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-karl-rove-have-election-tricks-up-his-sleeve/379113/51 "2006-11-08T20:10:31Z")
And the trickster got tricked: Michael Moore called up Karl Rove a week ago and told him the Election Day had been moved back a week so Karl planned all his last minute election tricks for next weekend. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2006, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-karl-rove-have-election-tricks-up-his-sleeve/379113/52 "2006-11-08T20:25:55Z")
_Karl Rove Is scared and shaken Todays pig Is tomorrows bacon_ - Burma Shave [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-karl-rove-have-election-tricks-up-his-sleeve/379113.md?page=2)