Does "MADE IN AMERICA" ever indicate a desirable product outside of the U.S.A.?

Anything purporting to be an American IPA and Samuel Adams Boston Lager specifically (I mean actually American rather than American Style, obviously).

Some of this (Sam Adams is the example I had in mind) is now Brewed under licence in the UK (god, don’t you hate those words?) so I check the fine print on every bottle I pick up, just in case more brands have done the same. I’m not sure you can get proper American Sam Adams in this country any more. As you might imagine, UK-brewed is a pale imitation.

(Did you see what I did there?)

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Here’s a post for two threads. When I was a kid my dad told me that the Japanese built a city called Usa, so that they could label stuff produced there as Made In USA. As the link indicates, not true (though in this case I suspect my father may have believed it himself.)

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I think we need to distinguish between (a) prestigious brands that happen to be American, or to be manfuctured in the US, and (b) goods/products in which “made in USA” is perceived as an indicator of quality in itself - i.e., the consumer generally prefers/esteems USA-made widgets over widgets from elsewhere. The OP seems to be to be asking about (b).

Apple, for example, is a prestigious brand. The brand is American, as is the design/development, though the hardware is mostly manufactured in China. But nobody buys Apple products either because they are American-designed or because they are Chinese-manufactured; they buy them because they are Apple-branded products, well-designed and well-manufactured. The US and Chinese connections don’t feature in this judgment.

When I worked in the Oil Tool industry, I can attest that nearly all of our international customers were clearly not interested in products that were not from the USA. We would constantly get requests to have “Made in USA” printed on our products. The problem was, we were not allowed, since much of the steel we used was not produced in the US. This was primarily because the US mills that produced the tubular sizes we were using had shut down their operations that made that product in the 1980’s and were not interested in investing in new plants to serve our market. According to our sales group, we could have commanded better prices if we could carry the Made in USA label, but we couldn’t, because of the source of the raw steel.

Due to globalization, Made in USA doesn’t mean what it used to.

Emphasis added my me.

This is correct. I even put it in the thread title. To quote the last sentence of my own first post:

Seems to be true for a lot of creative-type items.

  • books, as mentioned.
  • movies.
  • movies & TV shows.
  • software.

But fewer & fewer in the hard goods categories.

As a Canadian, I really can’t think of any product that a “Made in the USA” label would sway me one way or the other. That being said, I wouldn’t go out of my way to look for Canadian labels either, or any country now that I think of it.

If I want to buy something, I go looking for what I want. If it’s made in Bangladesh I don’t give a shit.

I greatly prefer our local (and much less sweet) cereals like Weet-Bix (an Australian version of Shredded Wheat) or ProNutro. One of my kids, though, is all about the Coco Pops (that’s be your Cocoa Krispies). But that’s made locally.

I find that the USA manufactures some incredible firearms. If someone offered me a “Made in the USA” Remington rifle, I’d gladly take it. One of the most accurate firearms I’ve ever shot. Mossberg rifles, also made in the USA, are excellent too.

While I’m thinking of firearms, you should know about what Canada has manufactured in that regard. Cooey rifles, from Cobourg, Ontario, are a Canadian treasure. Very reliable and very accurate, even with post-and-notch sights. They were also great for beginners; my first rifle was a Cooey Model 60. If I had the chance to buy another Cooey, I would take it.

Tobin Arms was another Canadian firearms manufacturer, located in Woodstock, Ontario. They made reliable and dependable shotguns, and while they haven’t built a shotgun since at least 1930, their shotguns are still collectible, and in demand. Prices for a Tobin shotgun today can reach into the thousands, for well-maintained shotguns, though whether that’s due to their relative rarity, or whether they (with regular maintenance) just kept working for years and still work today, I don’t know.

What I do know is that I last held a Tobin double-barrel, side-by-side about ten years ago; and the stock and the barrel fit together easily, as designed; the break action worked as it undoubtedly had for decades; and the trigger pull was reasonable. No squeaking or rust flakes, in other words. This machine had been cared for and maintained over the years, and I have no doubt that it would work just as well in 2010 as the day it came out of the factory sometime in the 1920s.

Canadians can make awesome firearms if they want to. If I like Remingtons and Mossbergs because they are accurate and reliable and made in the USA, then I also like Cooeys and Tobins because they are accurate and reliable and made in Canada.

I don’t know if people buy them because they’re made in the US, but a US manufacturer dominates the electric vehicle market. It’s perceived (rightly) that their vehicles are the best. But that market is not really mature enough to say people buy because of the country the vehicles are made in.

I was unaware Nissan was an American manufacturer…

Cripes, I’m sorry, but “ProNutro” sounds like the brand name of a medium-high quality dog food.

They aren’t of course, but they don’t dominate that market, as I’m sure you know. As I understand it, their sales have been decreasing lately and they currently don’t sell anywhere near a plurality of EVs. If you count total sales going back 10 years or whatever, they sold more vehicles than anyone else, or at least that was the case up until recently. Another manufacturer has or will soon exceed their sales total.

No, I *don’t *know. Since I apparently have no idea what you mean by “dominate”, since you seem to think some American company does.

Your loss. It’s awesome stuff. Originally developed as a complete food to combat malnutrition.

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Sell more EVs than all its competitors combined in the past couple years. If that’s not domination, I don’t know what is.

From what I can tell, American EMD diesel electric engines are the favorite choice for countries without robust locomotive-manufacturing industries,

Those videos aren’t as enlightening as you’d think. They both have several limited-edition and slightly off flavors of staples (Donut Cap’n Crunch, Fruit Loops with Marshmallows, Blueberry Pancake Cap’n Crunch) that Americans don’t like either (otherwise they’d be around all the time) and a couple of regular cereals (Peanut Butter Cap’n Crunch and Reese’s Peanut Butter Cereal) that Americans like well enough too that they’re always on the shelves. The Irish people liked the same ones Americans like.

Not sure if the video was meant to be disingenuous or if they’re just mis-informed.

But Irish people sure do have a fascination with peanut butter! :slight_smile: I think I’ve read on the SDMB before that it’s not really a thing outside of the US.

My Ex works for EMD. Haven’t talked to her in years but they used to get huge orders from all over the world. How the hell you ship 100 big ass locomotives to China is beyond me but apparently it can be done.

A temporal blip. Domination would require at least a decade’s worth of sustained sales lead.