# Does Madonna (the singer) look more and more like an old whore? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 19, 2011, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431 "2011-11-19T09:07:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/41 "2011-11-19T19:53:54Z")
I’ve been actively disliking Madonna (both her music and personality) since 1983. She has all the charm and charisma of a rabid squirrel. On top of which, she’s done some truly awful things. _Swept Away_ and _Like a Prayer_ come to mind. But “old whore” is over the top, bordering on plain old misogony. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/42 "2011-11-19T20:01:34Z")
I would be absolutely shocked if Madonna doesn’t already own a hott-pink tank top (two sizes too small, of course) that has the words “Old Whore” emblazoned in huge, glittery letters across it’s chest. Seriously (OK, _Maybe_ just the word “Whore” without mention of age) ---
**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/43 "2011-11-19T20:29:54Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > I’ve been actively disliking Madonna (both her music and personality) since 1983. She has all the charm and charisma of a rabid squirrel. On top of which, she’s done some truly awful things. _Swept Away_ and _Like a Prayer_ come to mind. But “old whore” is over the top, bordering on plain old misogony. Yeah. I think comments like that say more about the speaker than the target of the insult. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/44 "2011-11-19T20:49:44Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > She does! > > While were woman-bashing about looks, what’s up with [Hillary’s do](http://articles.cnn.com/2011-11-18/asia/world_asia_us-clinton-myanmar_1_aung-din-suu-kyi-s-national-league-aung-san-suu-kyi?_s=PM:ASIA) of late? Seems like she was changing it every 6 months, but now she just goes for the blonde “That Girl” look. As though she just finally said “I give up”. I love me some Hilary. Even though I don’t always agree with her politics, I appreciate that she’s intelligent, articulate, and loyal. That 'do, however, is embarrassing. Why she abandoned the tailored, age appropriate hair, to revert back to the 70’s do, complete at times with a headband, is beyond me. ---
**Author:** ![Ruffian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@Ruffian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruffian)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/45 "2011-11-19T21:03:11Z")
“Old whore” is a bit hyperbolic, with a dash of misogyny and sprinkle of thread-baiting. She looks phenomenal for a 53yro woman. That said, I caught one of her newer videos on the revived show Pop-Up Video the other day. She was dancing around and singing with Justin Timberlake, and it felt very strange and a bit sad to see this woman–who is 2 years away from being able to join the AARP–writhing and seducing the camera like she’s 30, or even 15, years younger. Not that a 50yro woman can’t be sexy in her own right–but trying to do what she did decades ago just falls flat and is a bit…sad. Desperate sad. She’s the master (mistress?) of reinvention. She needs to reinvent herself as something other than, well, this. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/46 "2011-11-19T21:15:30Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Not quite. It’s more shaming of someone for dressing like she’s younger than she appears. It’s closer to making fun of someone over 30 for wearing short shorts. What’s wrong with how Madonna is dressed in the OP’s photo? I think her top is kind of ugly, but it doesn’t strike me as inappropriate or too “young” looking for a 50-something who’s in good shape. It’s mostly black, has sleeves, and while somewhat low-cut seems pretty restrained by pop star standards. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/47 "2011-11-19T21:17:28Z")
> [@Ruffian](#): > > “Old whore” is a bit hyperbolic, with a dash of misogyny and sprinkle of thread-baiting. She looks phenomenal for a 53yro woman… Hey, the OP, who’s never come back to any of the threads he started or contributed to anyone else’s, is probably just dreading Thanksgiving With Mom… I understand his misogyny. His Mom dropped him down a laundry chute in the cheap hotel where she gave birth. Then those meddling old biddies in CPS reunited them. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/48 "2011-11-19T21:18:07Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Apparently, they call you an old whore to let you know. This is cracking me up. I’m 55. I wore a knee length skirt and some cowboy boots to work one day. I had on a long sleeve, high neck shirt, and since I’m always cold, a sweater on top of that. I was working with a lady that is about 70 years old that day and when I remarked that I was freezing, she told me that if I didn’t dress so fufu, I wouldn’t be cold. I was speechless. I never ever considered myself fufu. I take it as a compliment now. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/49 "2011-11-19T21:34:24Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Rawr, this woman is richer than most people and she got there by letting us ogle her body. Down with this sort of thing! (I don’t really understand why it’s so important that famous people get vilified as sluts and whores when they haven’t engaged in prostitution as it’s commonly understood to be. What exactly did she do to deserve being called a whore? Is it because she sings some raunchy songs? Because she defies traditional judeo-christian beliefs about appropriate behavior?) I’m an atheist. I consider Madonna a whore (in the common usage, though she’s technically not a prostitute to my knowledge)/slut ever since I heard about her habit of cruising in her limo, finding much younger boys, and inviting them into the limo for sex. I’d find this behavior similarly repellant in a man. And I don’t care if someone is famous or not, I think that this sort of behavior deserves to be called out. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/50 "2011-11-19T21:36:55Z")
I think she looked amazing in that video. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/51 "2011-11-19T21:40:53Z")
> [@lost4life](#): > > Meh, I’d hit it. Justinian the first would like to have a word with you. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/52 "2011-11-19T21:43:38Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > I consider Madonna a whore (in the common usage, though she’s technically not a prostitute to my knowledge)/slut ever since I heard about her habit of cruising in her limo, finding much younger boys, and inviting them into the limo for sex. Wasn’t that a video? ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/53 "2011-11-19T21:45:18Z")
It might have been in a video, but it was pretty common for her to do this IRL. With underage boys. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/54 "2011-11-19T22:13:25Z")
I’ve never heard that before. Can you provide some more info? Maybe a cite? ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/55 "2011-11-19T22:14:15Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > It might have been in a video, but it was pretty common for her to do this IRL. With underage boys. Wait, what? This is the first I’ve ever heard of the Madonna-is-a-pedophile accusation. Dare I ask for a cite? ---
**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/56 "2011-11-19T22:18:53Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > I’ve never heard that before. Can you provide some more info? Maybe a cite? I’ll third that. That’s a pretty horrible thing to accuse someone of publically. Needs to be backed up. ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/57 "2011-11-19T22:27:18Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > I’m an atheist. > > I consider Madonna a whore (in the common usage, though she’s technically not a prostitute to my knowledge)/slut ever since I heard about her habit of cruising in her limo, finding much younger boys, and inviting them into the limo for sex. I’d find this behavior similarly repellant in a man. And I don’t care if someone is famous or not, I think that this sort of behavior deserves to be called out. Cite? I have _never_ heard this. Without a cite, it didn’t happen. Maybe my google-fu is weak this evening but I can’t find any referernces to this online. ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/58 "2011-11-19T22:30:03Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > It might have been in a video, but it was pretty common for her to do this IRL. With underage boys. Again: cite? ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/59 "2011-11-19T22:32:40Z")
I remember hearing accusations that Madonna went cruising for younger men, but I don’t recall hearing that they were underage. Young enough to be squicky, but there’s a big difference between being squicky and being a felon. ETA: I think it was around the time she met the father of her daughter, Lourdes, if someone cares enough to go searching around the internet. I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/60 "2011-11-19T22:34:30Z")
I’m not a huge Madonna fan or anything, but I certainly have NEVER heard any accusations of her being a pedophile (or I guess technically an ephebophile if the guys in question weren’t actual children). I am going to have to join the chorus of “cite?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431.md?page=4)