# Does Madonna (the singer) look more and more like an old whore? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 19, 2011, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431 "2011-11-19T09:07:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/101 "2011-11-20T19:23:22Z")
Here’s a link to the actual page. NSFW. [Link](http://www.beautifulmadonna.com/madonnasex/index21.html) There is no age given because it’s an excerpt from the book but it’s not an excerpt from a longer story. As near as I can tell, it’s a memory of a fictional character named Mistress Dita created by Madonna to serve as the narrator and voice of the book. So, while it’s possible that Madonna craftily hid a story of a true sexual encounter with a minor in an otherwise book of fiction, I suspect it’s more likely just her being arty and edgy. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/102 "2011-11-20T20:47:00Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > Well, if this truly is an excerpt of Madonna’s “Sex” book, then it’s pretty damning. How young does someone have to be in order to not have pubic hair yet? > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Shaved. > > Plus, I’m pretty sure it’s a fictional account as she describes him as “probably a virgin” yet also says he gave her crabs. I don’t think I’ve ever even seen a copy of _Sex_, but it came up several times when I was in library school as an example of one of the most controversial books a public library would have been likely to own. It’s my recollection that the text of the book is fiction. Pulling back a bit, while I can easily believe that Madonna has been _rumored_ to have sex with underage boys, if there were any evidence of this it wouldn’t be hard to find a reliable cite. Heck, it’s unlikely anyone would have even asked for a cite, because a story like this would be well known. Madonna has been one of the most famous women in the world for over 20 years. She’s in the news all the time, and jokes about her sex life were (maybe still are) common in late night talk show opening monologues. I can think of a number of other celebrities who’ve been accused of having sex with minors (Michael Jackson, R. Kelly), and these stories were talked about again and again in the media. With both Jackson and Kelly there were lawsuits or criminal charges brought against them, but again, Madonna is a huge celebrity and she has plenty of money. If she were actually in the habit of having sex with underage boys or even widely believed to do so, then I’d expect that someone (truthfully or not) would have come forward. I’m sure there would have been plenty of people happy to believe that Madonna had committed sex crimes. ---
**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/103 "2011-11-20T20:49:43Z")
Madonna’s book is not autobiographical. You might as well accuse George Lucas of genocide because he made Star Wars. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/104 "2011-11-20T20:50:10Z")
Anyone else hear the line by Noah Cross (John Huston) from _CHINATOWN_? > [@Noah Cross](#): > > Politicians, ugly buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough. ---
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/105 "2011-11-20T21:05:01Z")
_This old whore She got laid She did not e-ven get paid With a knick-knack paddy-whack Give the whore a bone Expose’ in Rolling Stone_ ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/106 "2011-11-20T21:07:25Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t perceive the difference in what you are proposing. Yeah, I should have phrased it better. What I mean is that we should be trying to change the connotations of the word. And in fact Madonna calling herself a slut is one of the ways of attempting to do so. Oh, and also add me to the chorus of voices that charges of pedophilia need to have a heck of a lot more support than rumors and hearsay. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/107 "2011-11-20T21:19:42Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > I don’t think I’ve ever even seen a copy of _Sex_, but it came up several times when I was in library school as an example of one of the most controversial books a public library would have been likely to own. I’ve come across the book in several libraries. 😃 :d&r: ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/108 "2011-11-20T21:34:03Z")
> [@sqweels](#): > > _This old whore > She got laid > She did not e-ven get paid > With a knick-knack paddy-whack > Give the whore a bone > Expose’ in Rolling Stone_ nice ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/109 "2011-11-20T22:07:12Z")
Considering her age, I think she looks fantastic. What does/should an old whore look like? That is all in your head, not her picture. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/110 "2011-11-20T22:11:56Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > And the bottom line is that it’s pretty pathetic that in 2011 we’re still hearing the same tired shit about women. It doesn’t seem to matter who it is, or if a woman acts “slutty” or not, there are still going to be people who don’t like her calling her slut, whore, etc. I’ve heard Taylor Swift called a slut because she’s publicly dated a few guys. And she’s about as sweet and innocent as it gets when it comes to pop stars. Thanks to you and the other progressive women in this thread for reminding folks it’s not 1952, which seems to be when some of the people in this thread are living. Conservative uptight puritans come out of the woodwork when it comes to Madonna. They’re fun to laugh at but it’s a bit depressing too. Edit to ask if Lynn Bodoni has stopped starving and mutilating kittens yet. Well? ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/111 "2011-11-20T22:21:51Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Thanks to you and the other progressive women in this thread for reminding folks it’s not 1952, which seems to be when some of the people in this thread are living. Conservative uptight puritans come out of the woodwork when it comes to Madonna. They’re fun to laugh at but it’s a bit depressing too. > **Edit to ask if Lynn Bodoni has stopped starving and mutilating kittens yet. Well?** If she follows what appears to be a usual pattern, she won’t come back to this thread to back up her assertions. So I think we can rest assured that Madonna isn’t a pedophile. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/112 "2011-11-20T22:22:47Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Edit to ask if Lynn Bodoni has stopped starving and mutilating kittens yet. Well? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/113 "2011-11-20T22:32:32Z")
> [@chiroptera](#): > > If she follows what appears to be a usual pattern, she won’t come back to this thread to back up her assertions. So I think we can rest assured that Madonna isn’t a pedophile. Computer problems. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/114 "2011-11-20T22:34:24Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > And accusations of being a pedophile? I hear Lynn Bodoni starves and mutilates kittens for fun, so she has no fucking room to talk. Here, PL. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/115 "2011-11-20T22:50:12Z")
> [@chiroptera](#): > > If she follows what appears to be a usual pattern, she won’t come back to this thread to back up her assertions. So I think we can rest assured that Madonna isn’t a pedophile. Well, the OP hasn’t come back to the thread, either. Since joining, he’s started several threads & then abandoned them. And hasn’t posted in anybody else’s threads, either. I’ve never been a huge Madonna fan but all the OP did was point out that he’s a misogynist… ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/116 "2011-11-20T22:53:27Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > 😕 Anybody can say anything about anybody at any time and not have to back up what they say. Lynn Bodoni “_ **heard** _ about [Madonna’s] habit of cruising in her limo, finding much younger boys, and inviting them into the limo for sex…it was pretty common for her to do this IRL. With underage boys.” Well, I _ **heard** _ that Lynn Bodoni starves and mutilates kittens for fun. I don’t have to provide a cite either. I don’t recall where it was. Could have been a post on a message board somewhere. If true, that’s pretty vile. ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/117 "2011-11-20T22:57:04Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > Computer problems. Again? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/118 "2011-11-20T23:08:06Z")
Madonna looks like an old whore? /checks pic Damn, I need to start some whorin’ in my spare time. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/119 "2011-11-20T23:30:56Z")
> [@chiroptera](#): > > Again? :dubious: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431/120 "2011-11-21T12:16:34Z")
In my line of work, I’ve seen a lot of old whores. Madonna looks nothing like that. She appears to have all her teeth, for one. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-madonna-the-singer-look-more-and-more-like-an-old-whore/603431.md?page=7)