# Does multi grain bread have any advantages? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** food-cooking\ **Created:** [August 25, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204 "2024-08-25T17:26:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Strenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Strenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strenger)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/21 "2024-08-26T05:45:17Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > But if you eat a LOT of white rice and little else, you are looking for trouble. I agree. Swap out that terrible white rice for wholesome brown rice, and avoid theramine deficiency altogether. My life has changed for the better once I stopped getting that Korsakoff Syndrome/Beriberi, and started getting with the program. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/22 "2024-08-26T06:12:46Z")
> [@Strenger](#): > > Do you have some sort of inside information that “brown rice” is healthier, other than the negligeable amount of added fiber and various micronutrients which neither have measurable quantities nor even potentially virtuous other qualities? > **[Intake of whole grain foods and risk of type 2 diabetes: results from three...](https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m2206)** > > Objective To examine the associations between the intake of total and individual whole grain foods and the risk of type 2 diabetes. > > Design Prospective cohort studies. > > Setting Nurses’ Health Study (1984-2014), Nurses’ Health Study II (1991-2017),... > **[Intake of whole grain foods and risk of coronary heart disease in US men and...](https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-022-02396-z)** > > Background Epidemiological studies have demonstrated a favorable association of whole grain intake with coronary heart disease (CHD) risk, although whether such an inverse association holds true for individual whole grain foods that have various... > **[Substituting brown rice for white rice on diabetes risk factors in India: a...](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31006420/)** > > India has the second largest number of people with type 2 diabetes (T2D) globally. Epidemiological evidence indicates that consumption of white rice is positively associated with T2D risk, while intake of brown rice is inversely associated. Thus, we... > **[Relationship between rice consumption and body weight gain in Japanese...](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30312545/)** > > Increasing obesity rates have driven research into dietary support for body weight control, but previous studies have only assessed changes in body weight of ±3 kg. We investigated the relationships between white or brown/multi-grain rice consumption... [https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jafc.2c06662](https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jafc.2c06662) ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/23 "2024-08-26T18:08:47Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Ah, the “Wheat Belly” guy. For the record, I just posted the first article returned from Google with the search term, “wheat is evil”. I’ve never heard of the guy. I’m not sure of the total size of the movement but I’d say that it’s not hard to find. If I ignored this guy, I’d still have a good picking to choose from. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/24 "2024-08-26T20:02:48Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > For the record, I just posted the first article returned from Google with the search term, “wheat is evil”. I’ve never heard of the guy. > > I’m not sure of the total size of the movement but I’d say that it’s not hard to find. If I ignored this guy, I’d still have a good picking to choose from Interesting. Google is no longer showing me the total number of hits, or any idea of how many pages of hits. However, from a quick scroll through the descriptions only on the first three google pages, just about all of them seem to be either 1. this same book or about the same book 2. debunking the whole idea that wheat’s evil or 3. pure word salad including those words. So I’m not at all sure that you’d have “a good picking” to choose from. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/25 "2024-08-26T20:21:21Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > [https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jafc.2c06662](https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jafc.2c06662) Thank you for the cites- there is no doubt that whole grain is better. But- white bread/rice/sugar is not evil, and whole grain/honey is not some magic food. Too many people take weird extreme positions on this. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/26 "2024-08-26T22:38:07Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > I’m not at all sure that you’d have “a good picking” to choose from. > **[Gluten 101: Food or Foe? ](https://www.doctorkiltz.com/gluten/)** > > Gluten is a plant toxin that can trigger long-term chronic inflammation. For people with celiac disease, gluten can be debilitating. > **[Why are Wheat and Grains Harmful to Health? | Nutritional Wellness and...](https://grangerhealth.com/why-are-wheat-and-grains-harmful-to-health/)** > > Why are Wheat and Grains Harmful to Health? - Why are Wheat and Grains Harmful to Health? Chances are that you know someone who avoids eating bread because they are sensitive to gluten. Many wonder: > **[Loren Cordain – Leaky Gut, Whole Grains, Potatoes & Autism](https://www.meandmydiabetes.com/2011/12/03/loren-cordain-leaky-gut-whole-grain-and-even-potatoes/)** > > Me and My Diabetes - Shelley Schlender > **[Why Wheat Can Be More Addictive - Dr. Don Clum](https://insulinfriendlyliving.com/why-wheat-can-be-more-addictive/)** > > When gliadin messes with the pain receptors in our brain, it takes more stimulation, either naturally or via drugs and medication to dull the pain. > **[The Corrupt History Of The Food Pyramid - Chief Nutrition](https://wearechief.com/en-us/blogs/articles/the-corrupt-history-of-the-food-pyramid)** > > Here's a review of the Food Pyramid from Dr Paul Mason. We've included the transcription below the video. You might think that what you're looking at here \[the food pyramid\] is a work of science that back in the 1970’s, scientists without... Now, granted, maybe I can put together a list of cranks for almost any food. But, in my experience, I’d say that Atkins, Keto, Low-Carb, the Hippie “gluten intolerance” movement, Keto, Paleo etc. all circle pretty heavily around the idea that wheat is bad. They might accept a sweet potato, but they’ll generally never accept wheat. Somehow, it’s carbs are just more carbie. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/27 "2024-08-27T10:01:06Z")
Your cites include a fertility doctor and two chiropractors. ETA: Unless I misunderstood, and you were trying to make a list of cranks. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/28 "2024-08-27T14:05:37Z")
List o cranks. ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@salinqmind1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind1)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/29 "2024-08-27T15:13:18Z")
Wegmans Marathon bread has all the seeds and whole wheat, carrot, honey, spelt, oatmeal, apples, bananas, rye…A little organic peanut butter on a slice and I feel ready for a whole day of marathoning whatever. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/30 "2024-08-27T15:40:39Z")
> [@salinqmind1](#): > > Wegmans Marathon bread has all the seeds and whole wheat, carrot, honey, spelt, oatmeal, apples, bananas, rye…A little organic peanut butter on a slice and I feel ready for a whole day of marathoning whatever. - I would recommend you stay away from [Dave’s Killer Bread.](https://www.daveskillerbread.com/) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/31 "2024-08-27T17:37:33Z")
Lol, i really like Dave’s killer bread, especially the “good seed” version. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/32 "2024-08-27T21:37:29Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > But- white bread/rice/sugar is not evil, and whole grain/honey is not some magic food. Ah, honey, which is basically slightly impure high-fructose corn syrup. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/33 "2024-08-27T23:01:05Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Lol, i really like Dave’s killer bread, especially the “good seed” version. I have tired it, too pricey but not bad at all. > [@Chronos](#): > > Ah, honey, which is basically slightly impure high-fructose corn syrup. Yep. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/34 "2024-08-27T23:14:29Z")
Honey will show up as “added sugar”. People shouldn’t underestimate the nutrition panel. (That said, comparing Dave’s bread with a serving size of 1 slice to Wegman’s with 2.5 slices is a bit curious. Usually, serving sizes are more standardized.) Honey is probably more expensive than sugar (and certainly more limited in quantity). You might get some health savings out of converting because your wallet will act as a bit of a limiter. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/35 "2024-08-27T23:28:09Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Honey is probably more expensive than sugar (and certainly more limited in quantity). You might get some health savings out of converting because your wallet will act as a bit of a limiter. Right, the biggest problem with HFCS is just that it’s so cheap, and it therefore gets shoveled into all sorts of foods in high quantities. Replace it all with honey, and it’d still be just as unhealthy, except nobody would do that because it’d cost too much. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/36 "2024-08-27T23:32:36Z")
Honey MIGHT have some health benefits it taken straight. Maybe- > **[Honey: Are There Health Benefits?](https://www.webmd.com/diet/honey-health-benefits)** > > Find out what the research says about honey, who should avoid it, and how it may affect your health. ## Honey Benefits _Although it is not a rich source of nutrients, some people regard honey as a health food. There is little or no evidence for many common claims about honey, but research supports some of the following:_ _ **Anti-inflammatory effects** _ _Honey contains antioxidants, which can protect the body from inflammation. Inflammation can lead to a variety of health issues, including heart disease, cancer, and [autoimmune disorders](https://www.webmd.com/women/features/life-with-autoimmune-disease#1). One study showed that antioxidants in buckwheat honey were detectable in blood plasma, showing that eating honey could enhance antioxidant activity in the body._ _ **Cough relief for children** _ _Health authorities do not recommend over-the-counter medications to treat young children’s coughs and colds. Some parents may look for natural remedies. In one study, 2 teaspoons of honey relieved children’s nighttime cough and allowed them to sleep. However, doctors do not recommend this practice for children less than a year old._ ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/37 "2024-08-28T03:06:05Z")
I’ve seen pollen being sold at the supermarket, as food. I wouldn’t be surprised if that turns out to have the same and more of the same compounds. (But, is also probably more likely to trigger some allergy?) That said, the different sugars are almost certainly beneficial to our health: [Facts About Sugar and Sugar Substitutes | Johns Hopkins Medicine](https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/facts-about-sugar-and-sugar-substitutes#:~:text=Removing%20all%20sugar%20from%20your,find%20alternative%20sources%20of%20energy). So compared to starvation or a sugar free life, honey is perfectly good at a reasonable dosage. Refined sugar is as well. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/38 "2024-08-28T05:31:53Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > i really like Dave’s killer bread, especially the “good seed” version. I like it in theory, but I find it way too sweet for me. All of the Dave’s breads I’ve tried have been too sweet for me. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/39 "2024-08-28T11:04:57Z")
I use it to make pb&j, so i hardly notice the sweetness. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204/40 "2024-08-28T19:53:15Z")
I can see that. but I did note that Daves does have some added sugar. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-multi-grain-bread-have-any-advantages/1006204.md?page=3)