# Does Obama Want To Ban Sportfishing?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [March 11, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152 "2010-03-11T20:23:40Z")
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### Author: ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/21 "2010-03-12T01:59:47Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Ya know, when I saw “Shimano” in the ESPN article, without a qualifier as to who or what Shimano was, I had to stop and scratch my head.
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> “Aren’t those the guys who make bicycle parts?” I asked myself. “Why do they care about fishing?”
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> Then I remembered seeing their name in ads in my kayaking mags. So I guess they have a stake in this, but: why is it such a big deal?
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> Even if it happens, all they have to do is spend money like crazy next election cycle, and then this fine Japanese company can get the elected officials they want. Once they have their candidates in office, they can just write new legislation to suit themselves.

Shimano makes some very nice reels. Very nice.

I think this whole thing is fishy.

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### Author: ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/22 "2010-03-12T02:04:24Z")

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Someone needs to start a database of all the “Obama wants to ban X” type rumors over the next 3-7 years.

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### Author: ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/23 "2010-03-12T02:34:54Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Someone needs to start a database of all the “Obama wants to ban X” type rumors over the next 3-7 years.

[“Obama wants to ban” -fishing](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=aKa&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22Obama+wants+to+ban%22+-fishing&btnG=Search):

Smoking Everywhere  
Smoking in the Military  
Public School Junk Food  
Guns (assault weapons, hunting, handguns …eight, on its side)  
Proprietary Trading  
Lobbyists from govt. advisory roles  
Pocket Knives  
Space Weapons  
Concealed Carry Laws  
[Christmas in December](http://blogs.philadelphiaweekly.com/politics/2009/12/02/barack-obamas-war-on-christmas/)  
Flavored Dips (tobacky, not sour cream and onion)  
Foreclosures  
Black Cars  
Hate Speech  
Nuclear Energy/Weapons  
“those ridiculous contracts with pages of fine print that no one can figure out”  
Toy Imports from China  
Payday Loans  
FREEDOM ASPECTS OF INTERNET  
SUV’s  
New Coal Fired Power Plants  
Texting While Driving  
a radio program and a book  
insurers from scrapping coverage for sick patients  
Torture  
conspiracy theorists  
Poker  
NRA Ads  
Racial Profiling  
NASCAR  
Antibiotics for animals  
Reloads  
Limbaugh  
Organic Farming  
etc.

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### Author: ![kdeus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b487fb/32.png) [@kdeus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kdeus)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/24 "2010-03-12T02:50:10Z")

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Ocean use is a real, live issue which I hope a lot of rational people take part in the discussion of (I deal with it a little at work; these are my opinons not those of blah blah…).

There are whole truckful of people who all have legitimate interests in a finite amount of coastal area. Some groups that didn’t exist twenty years ago (offshore wind farms, I’m looking at you) and some who didn’t have as much clout (wetlands fan club int’l), plus all your public beaches, sport fishermen, conservation groups, commercial fishermen, offshore resource folks, resorts, etc etc etc.

I hope this doesn’t become a nutjob shouting point. And a pony. I hope for rational political discourse and a pony, and I’m gonna go buy some hay right now.

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/25 "2010-03-12T02:56:22Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Shimano makes some very nice reels. Very nice.
> 
> I think this whole thing is fishy.

Are you going to start to carp now, from your lofty perch…?

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### Author: ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/26 "2010-03-12T03:03:42Z")

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There are already ocean areas where no fishing is allowed. As fishing stocks decline, there will be more such areas. Or, there will be no more fish.

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### Author: ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/27 "2010-03-12T03:32:46Z")

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Any good statistics on commercial vs recreational fish taking numbers? I can’t seem to get a good search going on Google for it.

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### Author: ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/28 "2010-03-12T04:14:46Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> He’s not going to ban sportfishing. That is, not until he takes away everyone’s guns first.

If they take away my guns, how will I shoot fish?

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### Author: ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/29 "2010-03-12T04:32:48Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Are you going to start to carp now, from your lofty perch…?

I am not taking that bait.

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### Author: ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/30 "2010-03-12T05:15:15Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Are you going to start to carp now, from your lofty perch…?

Well it is pretty crappie, but I’m floundering for the right words. Maybe they just jumped the shark? Or did it for the halibut? It could just be a fluke.

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### Author: ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/31 "2010-03-12T05:29:21Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> He’s not going to ban sportfishing. That is, not until he takes away everyone’s guns first. Sheesh. Can’t those guys get Obama’s priorities straight?

ETA: never mind, someone beat me to the joke. Dammit!!!

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### Author: ![bluezooky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@bluezooky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bluezooky)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/32 "2010-03-12T07:20:43Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> Reading the article, all I get is that there was a public input period, and it’s over. I can’t tell if there was a date set in advance and that date happened to pass, or if one day the NOAA just announced “OK, public input is over as of…now.” I see no evidence that the administration is actually planning on implementing any of the recommendations of the tree hugging organizations mentioned in the article, just fears from the sports fishing industry that they will.

The Pew Environment Group are a very cashed up and influential lobby group, they have had some limited success in locking some Australian waters, their not you typical tree huggers by any means with the trust having five billion in assets they can wield some real power.

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### Author: ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/33 "2010-03-12T14:05:06Z")

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First they came for the bass,  
but I said nothing for I was not a Bass Master.

Then they came for the tarpon,  
but again I said nothing, since they don’t taste good and anyway I’m not Greek.

Then they came for the the dolphin,  
which confused me, since it’s a name for a fish and a mammal

Then they came for the snook,  
which amused me, as the name snook sounds kind of funny

Then they came for me,  
for writing bad poetry

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/34 "2010-03-12T15:54:54Z")

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> [@spoke-](#):
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> I am not taking that bait.

Cut the carp-old fish puns stink like…well, you know.

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### Author: ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/35 "2010-03-12T16:05:35Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Someone needs to start a database of all the “Obama wants to ban X” type rumors over the next 3-7 years.

I heard he wants to ban databases too, so it’s really just a fool’s game.

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### Author: ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/36 "2010-03-12T16:15:43Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Cut the carp-old fish puns stink like…well, you know.

Yeah, but they lured you in, didn’t they?

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### Author: ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/37 "2010-03-12T16:21:49Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Yeah, but they lured you in, didn’t they?

hook, line, and sinker.

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### Author: ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/38 "2010-03-12T16:23:18Z")

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They can have my fishing lures when they pry them from my cold, clammy lips with needlenose pliers in the ER!!

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### Author: ![Kearsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kearsen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/39 "2010-03-12T16:30:44Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Someone needs to start a database of all the “Obama wants to ban X” type rumors over the next 3-7 years.

Methinks you better get that list going pronto, he might not have but 2.7 yrs left…

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-obama-want-to-ban-sportfishing/532152/40 "2010-03-12T16:35:08Z")

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> [@](#):
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> They can have my fishing lures when they pry them from my cold, clammy lips with needlenose pliers in the ER!!

Well, how about as a fashion statement?

“Dude, all the guys in the band have piercings, but that guy’s got a fishing lure through his lip! Awesome!”

“Well, he is the bass player…”

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