# Does posting an announcement increase the post count? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 16, 2003, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-posting-an-announcement-increase-the-post-count/148876 "2003-01-16T01:28:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-posting-an-announcement-increase-the-post-count/148876/1 "2003-01-16T01:28:31Z")
That’s it, really. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-posting-an-announcement-increase-the-post-count/148876/2 "2003-01-16T02:23:56Z")
Don’t know. If I ever post an announcement I’ll try to remember to check so that your 'satiable curiosity is quenched. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-posting-an-announcement-increase-the-post-count/148876/3 "2003-01-16T02:33:34Z")
Quick, somebody do something horrible so we can find out!!! ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-posting-an-announcement-increase-the-post-count/148876/4 "2003-01-16T04:33:03Z")
The more I think about it (and god knows why I’m even thinking about it) the more I convince myself that it doesn’t. Hmm. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-posting-an-announcement-increase-the-post-count/148876/5 "2003-01-16T04:37:00Z")
No. Announcements are kept in a separate table, and do not add to the post count. ---
**Author:** ![DLurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecd19e/32.png) [@DLurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DLurker)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-posting-an-announcement-increase-the-post-count/148876/6 "2003-01-16T04:48:59Z")
So then they are not really posts. Just memos then or countless posts maybe. pointless pre-post count or pointless post-post count? ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-posting-an-announcement-increase-the-post-count/148876/7 "2003-01-16T05:15:16Z")
Fascinating. Are the announcements automatically deleted after they expire or are they still filed away? ((Why am I so fascinated by announcements?!)) ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-posting-an-announcement-increase-the-post-count/148876/8 "2003-01-16T05:18:37Z")
No, they are not posts. Posts are stored in an SQL table called, ironically, “post”. Announcements are stored in another SQL table, called, also ironically, “announcement”. Posts have 14 coumns of data in them, and announcements only 6 columns. When vBulletin refreshes the counters (in misc.php), it does a select from post only, based on userid, and counts the posts. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-posting-an-announcement-increase-the-post-count/148876/9 "2003-01-16T05:21:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by erislover \* > \*\*Fascinating. Are the announcements automatically deleted after they expire or are they still filed away? > > ((Why am I so fascinated by announcements?!)) \*\* They just become invisible - they are not deleted automatically. I just looked, and I have several old announcements on my Board, which are still there, but not seen. I could make them visible again by just changing the expiry dates on them. ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-posting-an-announcement-increase-the-post-count/148876/10 "2003-01-16T15:25:40Z")
Thanks for the unbelievably quick repsonse there. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-posting-an-announcement-increase-the-post-count/148876/11 "2003-01-16T17:37:46Z")
Thanks, Anth, for fielding that question. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-posting-an-announcement-increase-the-post-count/148876/12 "2003-01-16T18:14:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by UncleBeer \* > \*\*Thanks, Anth, for fielding that question. \*\* You’re welcome. I just want to help out where I can without stepping on any Staff toes. Especially in heels. 😉