# Does President Trump use private "goon squads"? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 15, 2017, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210 "2017-03-15T01:56:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/41 "2017-03-15T19:32:29Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > trump certainly does have private security. A guy has rich as him pretty much has to. Even a rich guy as famous for his generosity, honesty, humility, compassion, impeccable business ethics and long, unbroken history of fulfilling his promises as Donald J. Trump? What kind of world have we created where such a man needs round-the-clock protection from those who might wish him harm? ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/42 "2017-03-15T19:34:43Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > trump certainly does have private security. A guy has rich as him pretty much has to. Now calling them a “goon squad” (I’m sticking with the singular for the moment) is broadly accurate in the sense that calling any lawyer a “mouthpiece” is. In other words, just a matter of perspective. Isn’t offering to pay the legal bills of anyone who assaults a protester at his rallies literally attempting to recruit a private goon squad from any perspective? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/43 "2017-03-15T19:48:58Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > Isn’t offering to pay the legal bills of anyone who assaults a protester at his rallies literally attempting to recruit a private goon squad from any perspective? It certainly implies personal approval and at least partial sponsorship of said goons. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/44 "2017-03-15T20:12:37Z")
Its possible he does… or that they exist with plausible deniability to him. To prove it, though, you’d need: - Evidence of it {harassment by Goons} occurring. - A link between that particular “goon” to a central location where he/she was directed to act that way. - A link between that central location and someone on the Trump Team (or who reports to the Trump Team). Proof might consist of financial disbursements, materials purchases, emails or text from a Trump Team member directing a person to perform bad acts or approving such a plan of action. \*\*Now, I don’t have such proof. \*\* **If you do** , there is a whole host of media outlets that would love to speak with you. You would become famous, possibly garner endorsements and maybe even some speaking engagements. You’d have to fill in all the gaps though and in a way that is non-violent, doesn’t break the law, and doesn’t expose the reporter to prosecution. Also, the minute you get proof, if those directing the goons get wind of it, I’m guessing that they will pack up shop faster than Gene Hackman’s Team in “Runaway Jury”. **If Trump is using private goon squads.** ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/45 "2017-03-15T20:46:10Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Remember that I am the one standing on top watching you dig. That just means you’ll fall the hardest when things collapse. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/46 "2017-03-15T21:14:20Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I’ll hold y’alls glasses. Don’t bother. My telling someone to fuck off is almost always a prelude to my putting them on ignore so that I don’t have to put up with their ignorant horseshit any more. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/47 "2017-03-15T21:21:17Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Don’t bother. My telling someone to fuck off is almost always a prelude to my putting them on ignore so that I don’t have to put up with their ignorant horseshit any more. And eventually, you’ll always be right! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/48 "2017-03-15T21:22:32Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Don’t bother. My telling someone to fuck off is almost always a prelude to my putting them on ignore so that I don’t have to put up with their ignorant horseshit any more. So if we read your ignorant horseshit and say to you “go fuck yourself” … does it create a rift in the space-time continuum? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/49 "2017-03-15T21:28:22Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > So if we read your ignorant horseshit and say to you “go fuck yourself” … does it create a rift in the space-time continuum? Well, you aren’t supposed to say that at all, even in The Pit…but if he can’t read the insult, does it still count? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/50 "2017-03-15T21:35:36Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Every day, I am absolutely amazed. I think the comments on this board about Trump have got to have hit bottom and can’t sink any lower in the Slough of Childish Stupidity. Speaking of “childish stupidity”: > [@Trump voters: explain yourselves](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/49): > > Clinton is a proven liar and a felon. I’ll vote for Trump to keep her out of the White House. I’d vote for a one-legged leper to keep her out of the White House. > [@Clothahump, and others...](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-others/770465/379): > > She’s a felon. Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/51 "2017-03-15T21:38:47Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Well, you aren’t supposed to say that at all, even in The Pit…but if he can’t read the insult, does it still count? 😃 While I’m sure Clothahump has the Ouroborossian talent of being able to steadily eat his own ass… what _is_ the deal with “fuck you / fuck off”, in the Pit? Every time I see it getting mod attention, it’s always “no warning given” or something. By now, Clotha must have accumulated dozens of these minor transgressions and I’m not aware of anyone else who makes it such a habit. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/52 "2017-03-15T21:45:27Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Don’t bother. My telling someone to fuck off is almost always a prelude to my putting them on ignore so that I don’t have to put up with their ignorant horseshit any more. So it’s cool for me to talk shit about yo’ mama?! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/53 "2017-03-15T22:19:36Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > While I’m sure Clothahump has the Ouroborossian talent of being able to steadily eat his own ass… what _is_ the deal with “fuck you / fuck off”, in the Pit? “Fuck you” gets a note but “fuck off” doesn’t. Unless the “fuck off” is followed by “and die”. Then there’s the ever popular “go fuck a cactus”, which stops short of wishing death on anyone so is perfectly okay. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/54 "2017-03-15T22:25:47Z")
Hmmmmm. “Giving a flying fuck at the moon” threatens satelliticide. Is it worthy of a warning? ---
**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/55 "2017-03-16T00:36:42Z")
We are the goon squad and we’re coming to town beep beep ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/56 "2017-03-16T00:46:38Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8t8iDdCl2Kw](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8t8iDdCl2Kw) Exactly. One of them even has a more appropriate orange tint for someone drumpf is likely to hire. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/57 "2017-03-16T04:00:49Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > There will keep appearing until the fucker is gone > > But, I agree, let’s try to stick to the many actual deplorable things Trump has done or said. I’m still petitioning the SD PTBs to create a Trump Dump sub-forum here in the Pit so those of us that don’t want to wade through the crap to indulge in some quality pitting have it a bit easier. ---
**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/58 "2017-03-16T04:07:13Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Trump has known the horrible, horrible Alice the Goon for many years. > > [http://comicvine.gamespot.com/alice-the-goon/4005-66513/images/](http://comicvine.gamespot.com/alice-the-goon/4005-66513/images/) She hasn’t posted here since the end of November. Hope she’s okay. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210/59 "2017-03-18T00:52:49Z")
Oh, yeah, she was unwell, right? My prayers ain’t worth shit, but I’ll try one anyway. ☹ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-trump-use-private-goon-squads/782210.md?page=2)