# Does Putin really have cancer?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-putin-really-have-cancer/964411>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 14, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-putin-really-have-cancer/964411 "2022-05-14T13:42:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-putin-really-have-cancer/964411/61 "2023-01-18T17:27:11Z")

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“Meanwhile, in entertainment news…”

I’ll buy the story that Putin is on Death’s threshold when it is presented in a publication for which the breaking headlines aren’t “Wedding death tragedy in Emmerdale confirmed as Charity predicts dark outcome?” and “Tyrone cheats on Fiz again after she exits Coronation Street?”

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-putin-really-have-cancer/964411/62 "2023-01-18T18:13:44Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> The rumors of illness have certainly been persistent, haven’t they?
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> The ones I’ve most commonly seen advanced are 1) Parkinson’s Disease and 2) some unspecified cancer. This thread is the first I’ve seen alleging “blood cancer”.
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> Here’s the most “dependable” recent source I’ve seen (and it ain’t much):
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> [Putin 'Very Sick' With Cancer, Other Health Issues: Ukrainian Official](https://www.newsweek.com/putin-very-sick-cancer-other-health-issues-ukrainian-official-1706606)

I wish I’d noticed this thread back in May, I saw that source being used another thread at the time and had seen the raw interview with Sky News they used as their source. It’s even worse than ain’t much; you literally couldn’t find a less reliable source of information. It’s based on an interview with [Major General Kyrylo Budanov](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrylo_Budanov), Chief of the Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. It is literally his job to spread disinformation, but it got quoted a lot in the media at the time. His answer to a question quoted in the Newsweek article is amusing given this context:

> He added that Putin has “cancer and other illnesses,” and when Sky News asked if he was merely spreading propaganda, Budanov replied, “It’s my job, it’s my work, if not me, who will know this?”

He also claimed to know when the war would end and that a coup against Putin was already in the works:

> He added that the fighting in Ukraine will be finished by the end of the year, and Russia’s defeat in Ukraine “will eventually lead to the change of leadership of the Russian Federation. This process has already been launched and they are moving into that way.”

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-putin-really-have-cancer/964411/63 "2023-10-11T14:10:13Z")

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[Vladimir Putin’s Death is ‘Imminent’ as Moscow Scrambles to Find a Successor for the ‘Terminally Ill’ Russian Leader](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putin-s-death-is-imminent-as-moscow-scrambles-to-find-a-successor-for-the-terminally-ill-russian-leader-report/ar-AA1hZXRk?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=00a1239af2bd4047a353cdfd0b7e3f10&ei=40)

Nothing really new here. A link in the article says that people are assessing Putin’s health from video of his meeting with Kim Jong Un. Putin hasn’t left any contingency plans, body double may be used (are being used) to keep up the charade of a functional Putin, etc. But over a year after this thread started, people are still/again talking about Putin’s health.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-putin-really-have-cancer/964411/64 "2023-10-11T17:18:52Z")

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Well, I can’t believe that the state of the war in Ukraine is doing his digestive system any good. Long-term stress can have serious deleterious effects on health. Beyond that, who knows?

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-putin-really-have-cancer/964411/65 "2023-10-11T19:13:27Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Vladimir Putin’s Death is ‘Imminent’ as Moscow Scrambles to Find a Successor for the ‘Terminally Ill’ Russian Leader

While hosted on MSN, the news is sourced from “Radar Online”:

> **[RadarOnline - Bias and Credibility](https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/radaronline-bias/)**
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> QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no

Radar Online is then sourcing the Daily Mail, who are sourcing a random Telegram channel.

I wouldn’t bet a lot of money on it.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-putin-really-have-cancer/964411/66 "2023-10-11T19:24:49Z")

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Shocker, Budanov was 0 out of 3 in his predictions. The closest he got was on the coup, which wasn’t actually in the works at the time he claimed it was, and didn’t lead to a change of leadership.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-putin-really-have-cancer/964411/67 "2023-10-11T19:47:58Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> didn’t lead to a change of leadership.

Well, technically it led to a change of leadership in Wagner.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-putin-really-have-cancer/964411/68 "2023-10-11T21:42:45Z")

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It depends on what the definition of “have” is. But he surely is worth it.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-putin-really-have-cancer/964411/69 "2023-10-11T21:48:54Z")

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Are people confusing Putin with Steve Scalise?

> **[House Majority Leader Steve Scalise announces blood cancer diagnosis,...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/29/politics/steve-scalise-blood-cancer/index.html)**
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> House Majority Leader Steve Scalise has been diagnosed with “a very treatable blood cancer,” and has started treatment, he announced on Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-putin-really-have-cancer/964411/70 "2023-10-12T00:27:03Z")

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Only the good die young.

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