# Does "recreational" rioting exist outside Northern Ireland? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 13, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-recreational-rioting-exist-outside-northern-ireland/663426 "2013-07-13T21:15:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-recreational-rioting-exist-outside-northern-ireland/663426/21 "2013-07-15T08:07:11Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Spanish public High School students have a long tradition of striking Students striking? How does that work? We protest by sabotaging our own education and by shooting ourself in the foot. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-recreational-rioting-exist-outside-northern-ireland/663426/22 "2013-07-15T09:04:17Z")
Well, yeah. It’s basically a matter of going to the school but, instead of entering the classrooms, picketing outside. After all, sometimes the students who are more vocal in those are also the same ones who are on a first-name basis with every centipede in the cafeteria’s bathroom, if they don’t picket nobody will notice they’re on strike. Private centers and technically-oriented schools (engineering, physics, chem, math) tend to take the attitude of “classes will proceed as usual; if you guys don’t have notes because you weren’t in and didn’t let any other students come in, tuff luck.” For some reason, those centers are less likely to have strikes than those where teachers will make up the work later. ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-recreational-rioting-exist-outside-northern-ireland/663426/23 "2013-07-15T18:35:26Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > What happens on that corner if the Wolverines beat the Buckeyes? Much more sadness until the beer takes effect. Then it becomes anger and more glass becomes broken. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-recreational-rioting-exist-outside-northern-ireland/663426/24 "2013-07-15T23:33:35Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > Berkeley today? Pretty milquetoast compared to the 60s. But yes, there and SF, it seems like some people protest just because they feel they should. I witnessed a recent one protesting against a bank. At a branch that had been permanently closed for some time… :rolleyes: Protest =/= rioting though. ---
**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-recreational-rioting-exist-outside-northern-ireland/663426/25 "2013-07-16T20:31:24Z")
This sort of amused me today. Well SORT of amused and sort of appalled and “good grief” at these rioting people. Will they stop when the heatwave stops and rain comes, I wonder. Sorry, back to the point. Apparently the Celtic football team from Glasgow will go and play a football match in Belfast. > [@](#): > > CELTIC supporters heading to Northern Ireland for the Champions League qualifier have been warned not to wear club colours ahead of the match in Belfast. > > … > > Original fixtures had the first match in Glasgow with the second leg in Belfast – which would have meant Celtic avoiding tensions surrounding the 12 July parades in Belfast. > > But the Northern Irish champions asked for the dates to be reversed to secure a television deal and guarantee a maximum crowd. Oh dear, now that was a silly decision, wasn’t it? But the really cute bit is this bit of aesthetic concern: > [@](#): > > … David Begley, director at Cliftonville FC, urged travelling Celtic fans to exercise caution. > > He told The Scotsman: “ **Belfast city centre is a very welcoming place, but people in Northern Ireland are very sensitive about colours** , not just this week. > > “As a result, it’s probably best to avoid wearing colours into the city centre tomorrow.” [http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/don-t-wear-celtic-colours-in-belfast-fans-warned-1-3001308](http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/don-t-wear-celtic-colours-in-belfast-fans-warned-1-3001308) Isn’t that sweet? He makes it sound as though it is purely on aesthetic grounds, like, you know, not wearing brown shoes with a black suit, or not mixing stripes with polka dots, or just not liking a particular shade. 😃 Can everyone play this game? Right, people, I hereby announce that I really don’t like the colour pink, and I am quite sensitive about it, so would you kindly be so good as to avoid wearing that colour if visiting Glasgow? Thank you. 🙂 The football man’s advice is, of course, quite wise, but it might just have been clever not to stage the match there, telly coverage or not. And it might be good if something - like police - could stop the recreational rioters. (Lovely phrase, btw) ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-recreational-rioting-exist-outside-northern-ireland/663426/26 "2013-07-16T20:54:27Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > What happens on that corner if the Wolverines beat the Buckeyes? Trick question - The Wolverines never beat the Buckeyes! 😃 O-H!! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-recreational-rioting-exist-outside-northern-ireland/663426/27 "2013-07-16T21:51:06Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > What about 4th of July. I read that more than a handfuld of cities had to cancel celebrations due to riots in previous years. Of course, there is also some precedent for [October 30](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Night). ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-recreational-rioting-exist-outside-northern-ireland/663426/28 "2013-07-16T21:52:19Z")
> [@MeanJoe](#): > > Trick question - The Wolverines never beat the Buckeyes! 😃 > > O-H!! True story, MichiganDopers? ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-recreational-rioting-exist-outside-northern-ireland/663426/29 "2013-07-16T23:10:40Z")
> [@Celyn](#): > > The football man’s advice is, of course, quite wise, but it might just have been clever not to stage the match there, telly coverage or not. And it might be good if something - like police - could stop the recreational rioters. (Lovely phrase, btw) Yeah but that would be letting the dickheads win. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-recreational-rioting-exist-outside-northern-ireland/663426/30 "2013-07-16T23:24:24Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > Yeah but that would be letting the dickheads win. Then they should play cross-code games with Ohio State. Because their mascot is a nut. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-recreational-rioting-exist-outside-northern-ireland/663426/31 "2013-07-16T23:57:36Z")
Well, if we’re going to riot, I say we do it the right way, in zoot suits. ---
**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-recreational-rioting-exist-outside-northern-ireland/663426/32 "2013-07-17T01:17:08Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > Yeah but that would be letting the dickheads win. I _think_ your meaning is that playing the match elsewhere would mean letting the dickheads win, but the only reason I suggested such is that it was originally meant to be played in Glasgow and that arrangement was changed just to get a bigger crowd, more money and more television coverage. It just looks like a not-very-good reason, really. But then I do tend to forget that many supposed “sports” are really just big business and not really for sport. A plague on all football-y houses! ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-recreational-rioting-exist-outside-northern-ireland/663426/33 "2013-07-17T01:45:08Z")
> [@Celyn](#): > > This sort of amused me today. Well SORT of amused and sort of appalled and “good grief” at these rioting people. Will they stop when the heatwave stops and rain comes, I wonder. Yes. Of course. Almost ALL rioting is “recreational”. You don’t get paid for it. If you don’t feel like it, you go home. Lynching is/was the same. There is a sweet spot for rioting/lynching. It has to be warm enough so that you feel edgy and irritable, but not so hot that you want to lie down in the shade. ---
**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-recreational-rioting-exist-outside-northern-ireland/663426/34 "2013-07-17T01:50:30Z")
No, really, it was genuinely worth wondering. In the U.K. we’re not really used to so many days without rain. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-recreational-rioting-exist-outside-northern-ireland/663426/35 "2013-07-17T02:31:54Z")
I read somewhere that many European student riots sort of occur at the same time the schools hold examinations. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-recreational-rioting-exist-outside-northern-ireland/663426.md?page=1)