# Does Rick Perry's stance on NY's gay marriage law lead you to like him a little bit more? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 27, 2011, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-rick-perrys-stance-on-nys-gay-marriage-law-lead-you-to-like-him-a-little-bit-more/590469 "2011-07-27T07:58:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-rick-perrys-stance-on-nys-gay-marriage-law-lead-you-to-like-him-a-little-bit-more/590469/81 "2011-08-27T03:48:54Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > This is absolutely true. Provided you define “real conservative” as “won the election.” Goldwater got creamed. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-rick-perrys-stance-on-nys-gay-marriage-law-lead-you-to-like-him-a-little-bit-more/590469/82 "2011-08-27T22:43:15Z")
[http://jimhightower.com/node/7527](http://jimhightower.com/node/7527) Here is Hightower’s take on his fellow Texan, Perry. He sees him as a fraud and an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2011, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-rick-perrys-stance-on-nys-gay-marriage-law-lead-you-to-like-him-a-little-bit-more/590469/83 "2011-08-28T01:45:46Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Yeah. But the mayor of the largest city in the “country” of Texas is Annise Parker–whose partner is Kathy Hubbard; they’ve adopted three kids. Why the Hell did has Perry chosen to bring his merry gang of homophobes to \*this \*city? > > The cities of Texas tend to vote Democratic, anyway. This is true essentially everywhere. Cities are almost invariably more liberal than rural areas. I think you will find that in any state with one or more large urban centers, there’s a red-blue division between city folk and bumpkins. Nor is this a uniquely American phenomenon. It’s generally true here in Canada as well, and I believe is true of most European countries. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-rick-perrys-stance-on-nys-gay-marriage-law-lead-you-to-like-him-a-little-bit-more/590469/84 "2011-08-30T15:57:10Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > It’s as simple at that. Stop demonizing gays, come out in support of gay rights, and you’ll get the gay vote. Same as every other group out there. In other words, be more liberal? I’ll grant you that stopping demonizing gays isn’t necessarily being more liberal, but coming out in support of gay rights pretty much is. > [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > From the folks at the [Texas Freedom Network](http://tfninsider.org/2011/07/28/that-didnt-take-long/). > > “Obviously, gay marriage is not fine with me,” Gov. Perry said today in a conversation with Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council. He and Perkins agreed that a constitutional ban on gay marriage would promote states’ rights by keeping states like Texas from being forced to recognize such marriages in other states… The state’s right to not be forced to recognize another state’s gay marriage, vs the state’s right to decide for itself what it chooses to recognize as marriage, including gay marriage. Right… > [@Recovering\_Republican](#): > > Look, the GOP has never lost when it has nominated a real conservative spouting real conservative values. Nixon, Reagan, Bush-41 (the first time) and Bush 43. So what was different about Bush-41 the second time? > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Somehow we never hear about how conservatives are mistrustful of government and don’t want it running our lives. We never hear about the philosophical differences that cause us to believe that people are more free and happy when they can live their lives free from govenment dictates. Yeah, like who we can and cannot marry, how we can have sex in the privacy of our own homes, or which religion we should observe to be good Americans. Conservatives would never want government dictating those things. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-rick-perrys-stance-on-nys-gay-marriage-law-lead-you-to-like-him-a-little-bit-more/590469/85 "2011-08-30T16:54:14Z")
It makes me more in agreement with him on the issue of gay marriage in NY but I don’t like him even 3/5 of 1% better as a presidential candidate. > [@](#): > > [Perry’s position] prompted a response from Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum, who tweeted overnight: “So Gov Perry, if a state wanted to allow polygamy or if they chose to deny heterosexuals the right to marry, would that be OK too?” I’m eager to hear the answer to this since ending monogamous heterosexual marriage once and for all is being debated in so many states. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-rick-perrys-stance-on-nys-gay-marriage-law-lead-you-to-like-him-a-little-bit-more/590469.md?page=4)