# Does Sanders have appeal beyond white liberals **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 27, 2015, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-sanders-have-appeal-beyond-white-liberals/729017 "2015-08-27T03:27:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-sanders-have-appeal-beyond-white-liberals/729017/61 "2015-09-03T12:08:41Z")
And sometimes, the constraints of the Constitution act to prevent liberty. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-sanders-have-appeal-beyond-white-liberals/729017/62 "2015-09-03T12:18:49Z")
No, it actually never does that. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-sanders-have-appeal-beyond-white-liberals/729017/63 "2015-09-03T12:40:18Z")
Tell that to Roger B. Taney. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-sanders-have-appeal-beyond-white-liberals/729017/64 "2015-09-03T12:47:33Z")
As bad as that was, I’d prefer us to not be a country like France where you can be jailed for booing the national anthem. > **[BBC NEWS | Europe | French MPs pass tough anti-crime law](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2759823.stm)** > > Anyone living off beggars or with a penchant for booing the Marseillaise faces heavy fines and a spell in prison under a new French law. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-sanders-have-appeal-beyond-white-liberals/729017/65 "2015-09-03T12:56:05Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That’s another way of saying the government must exist because it must exist. Whereas I say, and the founders say, that the purpose of government is to secure the blessings of liberty. The government exists as a means to an end, whereas you are arguing that the government is the end. Government is a means to various legitimate ends, and not all of them are “liberty”; more have to do with “the general welfare.” You do not pay taxes to build and maintain roads because roads make you any freer in the sense of being freer from government interference. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-sanders-have-appeal-beyond-white-liberals/729017/66 "2015-09-03T13:42:54Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Serious question I’d like to piggyback: His name _is_ pronounced “Sanders” as in “Colonel Sanders,” right? Because the Brits on BBC keep pronouncing it “Saunders.” Or have I just been away from the US too long? Darn those Brits and their adding extra “u”'s to words that doun’t need them. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-sanders-have-appeal-beyond-white-liberals/729017/67 "2015-09-03T13:52:03Z")
But soume wourds dou neeud theum. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-sanders-have-appeal-beyond-white-liberals/729017/68 "2015-09-03T14:22:47Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Darn those Brits and their adding extra “u”'s to words that doun’t need them. :mad: So it _is_ pronounced Sanders and not Saunders. Thanks. I knew it! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-sanders-have-appeal-beyond-white-liberals/729017.md?page=3)