# Does "sin" really exist?  I maintain there is no such thing.

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**Created:** [November 5, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-sin-really-exist-i-maintain-there-is-no-such-thing/601982 "2011-11-05T20:38:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![gatorslap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gatorslap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gatorslap)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-sin-really-exist-i-maintain-there-is-no-such-thing/601982/41 "2011-11-13T04:45:07Z")

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Of course sin exists. Opposite over hypotenuse. 🙂

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**Author:** ![David42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@David42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David42)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-sin-really-exist-i-maintain-there-is-no-such-thing/601982/42 "2011-11-13T04:52:33Z")

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d’oh.

I think it’s an SDMB sin to bump a thread with something stoopid like I just did, but since it don’t exist, I don’t give a rat’s tootin’ ass.

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**Author:** ![Naxos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@Naxos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Naxos)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-sin-really-exist-i-maintain-there-is-no-such-thing/601982/43 "2011-11-14T01:24:21Z")

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> [@Linden\_Arden](#):
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> “Sin” is therefore self definitional. And with such a self referential aspect the entire concept is clearly bogus.

Correct.

Social morality is not associated or dependent on religious beliefs.

Whether or not a society accepts or rejects a particular act should be the result of a common social preference, not the result of imaginary beings directing the fate of human beings.

There’s no “sin” because there are no gods.

There are immoral acts though, and it’s beneficial to society for an individual to adhere to basic societal moral principles.

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