# Does "Squaw" mean "Cun\_"?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-squaw-mean-cun_/479884>\
**Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\
**Created:** [January 5, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-squaw-mean-cun_/479884 "2009-01-05T01:35:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chippewa\_in\_Michigan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Chippewa\_in\_Michigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chippewa_in_Michigan)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-squaw-mean-cun_/479884/1 "2009-01-05T01:35:50Z")

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Straight Dope staff,  
You read it again,  
The question was NOT does squaw mean vagina there is nothing offensive about vaginas. The question was does squaw mean “cun\_”? Indians do not find vaginas offensive. It’s too bad Cecil does and pretends to equate the two words. I have never in my whole life ever heard anyone call a terrible woman a “vagina” before but have have heard a women being called a “cun\_”. I have never heard a man being called a “penis” but I have heard alot being called a “dic\_”. He needs to do firsthand research with real Indians and not the dictionary, IE., fag means cigarette, but not to a gay, coon means raccoon but not to an African American, chink means a kink but not to an Chinesse American, trailer trash means garbage at a mobile home park but not to some Caucasian Americans. Instead he’s taking it upon himself to misapropriately self impose what he states as fact by making his very own decree and posting it over the internet for the whole world to see. I was told firsthand by a Sioux Indian from Pine Ridge that it indeed means cun\_!!! And Whatever it meant before it has since taken on extremely demeaning negative conutations over the years in litature, movies, public media, and continues to in this day and age, THIS IS PROOF YET AGAIN!!! We Indians are the ones who decides what is offensive not non-Indians! How demeaning his internet posting is in the first place-- how presumptous of him to take it  
upon himself to think he can possibly dictate how us real Indians think and feel? Or does he assume we are a race of people too ‘pitiful’ as written in the past by so many other non-Indians, to think and feel for ourselves??? DON’T TRY TO REPRESENT WHAT I THINK AND FEEL!!! GET WITH THE INDIAN TIMES IF THAT IS WHAT HE IS TRYING TO WRITE ABOUT, THAT IS WHAT IT MEANS TODAY!!! WHY DON’T YOU POST THIS TOO!-- FROM A REAL INDIAN FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO SEE???

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-squaw-mean-cun_/479884/2 "2009-01-05T01:41:54Z")

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> **[Is “squaw” an obscene insult?](https://www.straightdope.com/21343665/is-squaw-an-obscene-insult)**

Might wanna read it again, Chief. That article doesn’t say what you seem to think it says.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-squaw-mean-cun_/479884/3 "2009-01-05T01:44:18Z")

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(comparing three virtually identical threads in a game of "One of These Things is Not Like the Other)

He seems angry about something.

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**Author:** ![Chippewa\_in\_Michigan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Chippewa\_in\_Michigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chippewa_in_Michigan)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-squaw-mean-cun_/479884/4 "2009-01-05T01:50:35Z")

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😕

> [@Q.E.D](#):
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> [Is “squaw” an obscene insult? - The Straight Dope](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2542/is-squaw-an-obscene-insult)
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> Might wanna read it again, Chief. That article doesn’t say what you seem to think it says.

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**Author:** ![Chippewa\_in\_Michigan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Chippewa\_in\_Michigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chippewa_in_Michigan)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-squaw-mean-cun_/479884/5 "2009-01-05T01:51:41Z")

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😕😕😕

> [@dropzone](#):
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> (comparing three virtually identical threads in a game of "One of These Things is Not Like the Other)
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> He seems angry about something.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-squaw-mean-cun_/479884/6 "2009-01-05T01:52:22Z")

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Sure. Neither one is accurate.

So, you gonna re-read that article or would you prefer for me to point out all the places you’re wrong?

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**Author:** ![JustAnotherGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@JustAnotherGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustAnotherGeek)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-squaw-mean-cun_/479884/7 "2009-01-05T01:59:55Z")

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**Chippewa in Michigan** , I don’t want to be accused of ‘Junior Modding’ here, but you may be playing with fire. Posting numerous identical threads is most likely to get you negative attention from the people who actually are mods.

I stand with **QED** , though. After reading the article, I don’t really understand your post. I think you misunderstood the article. When Cecil switched from using “c\*\*\*” to “vagina”, he admitted that he was using a less offensive term.

At the end of the article, he also stated that “squaw” may be considered offensive to some people.

Lastly, we may be dealing with a phoneme that has different meanings to different cultures. What “squaw” means to a Sioux from Pine Ridge may means something entirely different to a Cherokee from Florida.

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**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-squaw-mean-cun_/479884/8 "2009-01-05T02:25:22Z")

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