Does Superman need fixing?

Yes, indeed - and guess which character actually got “updated” as a result of DC’s New 52, and which one was allowed to keep all his continuity? I’ll give you a hint : exactly the ones that prove my point.

You seemed like you had plenty of advice there.

Off the top of my head, I’d actually suggest the recent Superman vs. The Elite animated movie - it’s an adaptation of an issue of Superman from a while back - before the recent reboot - that actually serves to address some of the anti-Superman arguments people are making in this thread.

The original comic was “What’s So Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way?” but I don’t remember the issue number.

Beyond that, I’d have to dig into my collection - some stories are serious, some are lighter. Unfortunately, the New 52 Reboot seems to have jettisoned most of the interesting parts of Superman in favor of the bland caricature most of these people are claiming he was all along - at least, in the Superman title. Over in Action he’s still a fun read.

I think the New 52 numbers aren’t especially useful, truth be told, because DC essentially upended the table in an unprecedented way. Digging back through the old statistics for Batman, Detective, Action, and Superman, two out of the four were selling at the 40K mark before the reboot; Batman was the big outlier at 50K. There’s a reason it’s used as the benchmark for the comics sales figures. The Superman title was the lowest of the four, at 35K.

Justice League was clocking in around 40K as well; Green Lantern was a star at 75K, but that’s easily attributable to Geoff Johns.

Using these :
http://www.comicsbeat.com/2012/07/16/dc-comics-month-to-month-sales-may-2012/

Thank you, I appreciate it. I’ll add these to the mega List I have from the other thread.

You know what, since this thread has several people talking about how Superman isn’t boring, I want a citation for this. It’s one thing to say you think he’s boring, but to argue that even the people writing for him do needs some sort of support.

Honestly, I find the comics Batman to be rather boring. Should I assert that his author is so bored out of his skull but just keeps on trying on the same book to prove he can do it?

I, for one, would hate to see Superman “fixed”. I feel like we have enough gritty, brooding and conflicted protagonists around and don’t really need any more. Let’s hang on to at least one hero.

Give him a boner once and a while. In front of Lois. Say, 7", throbbing, pulsating, and vibrating. (Hey, he’s Superman, isn’t he?)
I did read some articles, probably here on the SD, about what would happen to Lois if she had sex with Supes. Not a pretty picture.
But this would *still *make the big S more interesting, wouldn’t it? :wink:

How about changing his daytime job from a reporter to a gigalow.

Then, you could include many wonderful sex scenes and very satisfied ladies.

Now, whaddya tink about dat?
Hah hah hah.

Superman would make a fantabulous sex worker. Don’t cha tink?

I don’t see how any long running superhero could be interesting from a vulnerability/invulnerability perspective. So what if Superman is super powerful? We know that in these stories the good guys always win, they always live, no matter how flawed they are or how weak their super powers are.

The interesting stuff doesn’t come from the super powers or the idea that the super hero might not be able to save the day (they always do), but how it affects them mentally, affects their personal life, etc. So, explore all that (has this really not been done in any super man comics or movies or whatnot?)

Of course it has. Most of the people complaining about Superman being boring just aren’t aware of all the different kinds of Superman stories being told, because they don’t read his books, because they find him boring. It’s a self-enforcing cycle of ignorance of the character.

Superman would be more interesting as a functional alcoholic, who drinks to quell his agoraphobia, triggered by flying. He’d be a mean drunk whose morality goes out the door after super-guzzling Mad Dog 20/20 after a tough day fighting for Truth, Justice and the American Way.

…I’d also give him a facial tick and a foot fetish to give his character additional depth.