# Does the cancel culture need to extend this far? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-cancel-culture-need-to-extend-this-far/969311 "2022-08-08T15:23:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-cancel-culture-need-to-extend-this-far/969311/181 "2022-08-11T15:35:21Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > I actually did google about the relevance of the number 88 and nowhere in the first pages of results was anything about a racing driver, piano keys or Adolf Hitler Interesting. May be location, then. “What does 88 mean?” for me has almost the entire first page of results about white supremacists and hate symbols. Even the Wikipedia page for “88” has an entire subheading on it. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-cancel-culture-need-to-extend-this-far/969311/182 "2022-08-12T14:48:56Z")
posted in wrong forum ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-cancel-culture-need-to-extend-this-far/969311/183 "2022-08-12T16:54:41Z")
Whoa, there, roll back a little bit… > [@Omar\_Little](#): > > the culture of cancellation that has erupted since June of 2020 Wait, what? There has been argument over this sort of happening well before 2020 and even the term “cancel culture” itself I’m pretty sure dates back before that. I have been hearing about people losing jobs/contracts/etc. over such things for years now. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-cancel-culture-need-to-extend-this-far/969311/184 "2022-08-12T17:03:33Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > I have been hearing about people losing jobs/contracts/etc. over such things for years now. I mean, Jimmy the Greek was 1988 … all this “cancel culture” horseshit isn’t anything new. It’s just got a shiny new brand and more exposure with the internet being on top of everything and anything. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-cancel-culture-need-to-extend-this-far/969311/185 "2022-08-12T17:10:09Z")
What even happened in June of 2020, other than COVID? ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-cancel-culture-need-to-extend-this-far/969311/186 "2022-08-12T17:11:10Z")
George Floyd. Technically the incident was in May, but the protests were most significant in June. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-cancel-culture-need-to-extend-this-far/969311/187 "2022-08-12T17:14:19Z")
WTF? George Floyd protests weren’t an example of cancel culture. That was an example of murder. @Omar_Little, is that why you referenced that date?? Who was canceled? Floyd or Chauvin? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-cancel-culture-need-to-extend-this-far/969311/188 "2022-08-12T17:18:42Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > George Floyd. Technically the incident was in May, but the protests were most significant in June . I fail to see any connection between the so-called cancel culture and the George Floyd protests. Did I miss people complaining that the cops who murdered him were victims of “cancel culture?” There are two completely different things happening for completely different reasons. On one hand people were protesting years (centuries) of police misconduct directed at African Americans and other marginalized groups. On the other hand, we have snowflakes complaining about having to face consequences for stupid things they say and do.(and often it’s not even the person facing the consequences that complains about it). At times we have had healthy debate about the extent of consequences in particular circumstances but it generally comes down to people exercising their freedom to distance themselves from people they find offensive. ETA **Rittersport** ninja’d me and said it better. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-cancel-culture-need-to-extend-this-far/969311/189 "2022-08-12T17:27:45Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > ETA **Rittersport** ninja’d me and said it better. Well, maybe more succinctly anyway. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-cancel-culture-need-to-extend-this-far/969311/190 "2022-08-12T17:31:48Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > WTF? George Floyd protests weren’t an example of cancel culture. I’m not saying that dating makes sense - it doesn’t, “political correctness” (“cancel culture” under a different name) has been around over 30 years by now - but I’ve seen people claim that that’s where it recently began. Briefly, the usual derivation goes: mass movement for racial justice in the wake of Floyd’s killing focused a lot of white liberals on microagressions and systemic racism, and so they (and a lot of black activists) started cancelling people and institutions that showed that behavior; this was far too much of a backlash for the actions of a couple bad apples. Doesn’t have to be true to become a meme. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-cancel-culture-need-to-extend-this-far/969311/191 "2022-08-12T17:44:35Z")
Just to be clear, I’m not saying it’s your position. “Cancel culture” has been around forever – blacklisting of Hollywood types in the Fifties due to their suspected Communist connections, taking the Smothers Brothers off the air for cracks about Nixon, Janet Jackson and the “wardrobe malfunction”, and so on and so forth. Only now that it’s conservative white men getting canceled, it gets a new name and everyone gets the vapors. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-cancel-culture-need-to-extend-this-far/969311/192 "2022-08-12T22:34:25Z")
It’s a bit like how the right wing meme appeared that “race relations were great in this country before Obama” - it’s a deliberate attempt to ignore history and portray what’s happening _right now_ as the worst, most desperately unAmerican thing to ever have happened. Dear me, dear me, it’s all in Orwell… what _do_ they teach in these schools? ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-cancel-culture-need-to-extend-this-far/969311/193 "2022-08-12T23:05:35Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > The “nods and winks” might be a joking way of expressing somewhat justifiable irritation that you don’t bother even trying to find out independently what an unfamiliar expression might mean. Think of it this way, @Novelty_Bobble, if instead of an unfamiliar expression it was a sentence from an unfamiliar language, you’d be expected to go translate that language into one you understand. Right? That’s the way it’s always been here on the Dope and rightfully so. Use of foreign language is encouraged so as to confuse readers who aren’t “in the know.” If you don’t know the official cool-kids’ shibboleths you only have yourself to blame. Off to the pit with you! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-cancel-culture-need-to-extend-this-far/969311.md?page=9)