# Does the Georgia lawmakers' response to Delta set up an analogous example of White Privilege? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 5, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056 "2018-03-05T14:36:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/41 "2018-03-05T21:43:51Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > White Privilige theory is becoming more and more like ancient astronaut theory everyday. It’s basically a series of gee whiz observations superimposed onto a narrative. You forgot to add “in my opinion, which is completely unsupported by facts” to that paragraph. ---
**Author:** ![WillReadmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/6f9a4e/32.png) [@WillReadmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillReadmore)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/42 "2018-03-05T21:44:37Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Since you have such a craftsman’s eye for judging these distances, how far from racism is the argument for race-based hiring and admissions policies? This just isn’t an analogous situation. Admissions policy is not a case of government requiring accommodation between two specific enterprises. For example, admissions policy doesn’t does not involve one school being required by government to pay some other school. Trying to find a race discrimination analogy is just a big fat fail. ---
**Author:** ![WillReadmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/6f9a4e/32.png) [@WillReadmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillReadmore)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/43 "2018-03-05T21:51:02Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I said Georgia’s action is politically and morally indefensible and unwise as policy, not that it’s illegal. In the end they didn’t change anything except their brand image. Yikes - I should have put more effort into finding your exact post and not accepting what someone copied, which was out of context. My point is that it doesn’t matter which corporation benefitted from the government action or whether the government action was stated as a benefit or a cost to one of the corporations. The government simply had NO right to take action affecting the business relationship between two specific corporations. I now suspect you agree. And, I’ve learned a lesson and apologize. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/44 "2018-03-05T21:56:00Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Exactly. You can’t pretend it’s a fair race when some people get to start on the fifty meter line and some people have to start on the hundred meter line. Well, obviously, you can pretend it’s fair and plenty of people do; “Hey, we’re all running towards the same finish line, aren’t we?” > [@puddleglum](#): > > No the old system was that the race in political favor got the good jobs and college openings and the races not in political favor were either shut out or subject to quotas. The civil rights movement was about replacing that system with one where everybody get a shot at good jobs and college openings regardless of race. Some people want us to return to the old system where favored races get favored now that they think their preferred races will benefit. Your post is so predictable that I was able to respond to it before you made it. ---
**Author:** ![WillReadmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/6f9a4e/32.png) [@WillReadmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillReadmore)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/45 "2018-03-05T22:24:47Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Your post is so predictable that I was able to respond to it before you made it. It’s still totally off topic. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/46 "2018-03-05T23:01:43Z")
> [@WillReadmore](#): > > This just isn’t an analogous situation. > > Admissions policy is not a case of government requiring accommodation between two specific enterprises. > > For example, admissions policy doesn’t does not involve one school being required by government to pay some other school. > Trying to find a race discrimination analogy is just a big fat fail. You are confused. I wasn’t arguing anything about the role of government. The poster had claimed the argument for ignoring race in the evaluation of candidates is not far from racism. I was wondering how close to racism was a policy of race-based admission and hiring. The question will go unanswered, because the responder would have to sound foolish to do so. Racism\<\ **Author:** ![WillReadmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/6f9a4e/32.png) [@WillReadmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillReadmore)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/47 "2018-03-05T23:06:06Z") > [@WillFarnaby](#): > > You are confused. I wasn’t arguing anything about the role of government. > > The poster had claimed the argument for ignoring race in the evaluation of candidates is not far from racism. I was wondering how close to racism was a policy of race-based admission and hiring. The question will go unanswered, because the responder would have to sound foolish to do so. > > Racism\<\ > Or > > Racism\<\ **Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/48 "2018-03-05T23:09:17Z") Sorry…deleted so I can write something better. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/49 "2018-03-05T23:36:06Z")
> [@WillReadmore](#): > > … I see this as important, because the act taken by the GA government is HIGHLY objectionable - to the point where it should justify impeachment. Who should be impeached? The GA Lt. Gov? Which entity in Georgia is responsible for impeachment? The legislature (that just gave him what he asked for)? Sounds like the available remedy might have to be the voters. ---
**Author:** ![WillReadmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/6f9a4e/32.png) [@WillReadmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillReadmore)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/50 "2018-03-05T23:54:36Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Who should be impeached? The GA Lt. Gov? Which entity in Georgia is responsible for impeachment? The legislature (that just gave him what he asked for)? Sounds like the available remedy might have to be the voters. I agree with that. Holding high public office accountable is always hard. But, I really don’t understand how the supposedly conservative right wing that’s sensitive to corporate issues can tolerate government stepping in on business like that. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/51 "2018-03-06T00:04:54Z")
> [@WillReadmore](#): > > … I really don’t understand how the supposedly conservative right wing that’s sensitive to corporate issues can tolerate government stepping in on business like that. “Stepping on business like that”? It sounds like the GA Legislature cancelled a bit of corporate welfare. I would have thought that was something both sides could applaud. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/52 "2018-03-06T00:36:08Z")
> [@WillReadmore](#): > > I’m pointing out that the GA move against Delta has NO analogy related to racism. > > The entire discussion of racism is off topic in the OP and title. > > I see this as important, because the act taken by the GA government is HIGHLY objectionable - to the point where it should justify impeachment. Did you object to the ACA mandates that forced some corporations to buy insurance coverage from other corporations? You’re acting like this is something new for governments to do. This is decades old government technique at work. ---
**Author:** ![WillReadmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/6f9a4e/32.png) [@WillReadmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillReadmore)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/53 "2018-03-06T02:21:12Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > “Stepping on business like that”? It sounds like the GA Legislature cancelled a bit of corporate welfare. I would have thought that was something both sides could applaud. It was done as punishment for an action taken between two specific corporations. The Gove made that clear. That kind of action by government is NOT OK. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/54 "2018-03-06T02:54:27Z")
> [@WillReadmore](#): > > But, I really don’t understand how the supposedly conservative right wing that’s sensitive to corporate issues can tolerate government stepping in on business like that. Republicans/conservatives adhering to their stated ideals? Not sure where you’ve been for the last year but I am hard pressed to think of something they haven’t caved on except abortion and guns (and Trump almost caved on guns all by himself till the NRA set him straight). ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/55 "2018-03-06T02:56:50Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Did you object to the ACA mandates that forced some corporations to buy insurance coverage from other corporations? You’re acting like this is something new for governments to do. This is decades old government technique at work. The government has mandated that you buy insurance if you want to drive a car. If you own a company the company has to buy insurance for any vehicles it runs. Been that way for ages. Have you been complaining about that all this time? ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/56 "2018-03-06T12:54:50Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > The government has mandated that you buy insurance if you want to drive a car. If you own a company the company has to buy insurance for any vehicles it runs. Been that way for ages. > > Have you been complaining about that all this time? What part about “decades old government technique” did you fail to understand? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/57 "2018-03-06T15:35:03Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > What part about “decades old government technique” did you fail to understand? Do you think it is wrong for the government to mandate car insurance if you drive? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/58 "2018-03-06T16:19:41Z")
> [@WillReadmore](#): > > The argument by ElvisL1ves is just plain stupid. > > Government demanded a specific accommodation between two specific corporations. > > That is NOT free market enterprise. > > Government has NO business doing what they did. It should be an impeachable offense. > > Consider where that is going. How is it any different than the state requiring Facebook to give some free ad space to Yahoo, or requiring Texaco to give the NRA a price cut at the pump? > In America, government CAN define a platform of regulation that affects all those who compete. But, having our government pick winners and losers is NOT their job. For which offense should the GA legislators be impeached - for giving Delta the tax break, or for removing it? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/59 "2018-03-06T16:20:47Z")
> [@WillReadmore](#): > > It was done as punishment for an action taken between two specific corporations. > > The Gove made that clear. > > That kind of action by government is NOT OK. Government should have never given them the tax break in the first place. Delta lobbying for special handouts from the government was political. Now the tax break is the subject of the vagaries of the political system. You buy the ticket, you take the ride. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056/60 "2018-03-06T16:26:14Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > What part about “decades old government technique” did you fail to understand? > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Do you think it is wrong for the government to mandate car insurance if you drive? My god, who cares? Mandatory insurance is not remotely like the government punishing Delta over dropping a discount for the NRA. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-georgia-lawmakers-response-to-delta-set-up-an-analogous-example-of-white-privilege/810056.md?page=4)