# Does the government often fabricate statistics? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [January 27, 2019, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-government-often-fabricate-statistics/828471 "2019-01-27T03:45:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-government-often-fabricate-statistics/828471/61 "2019-02-03T20:29:06Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Given the broad range of CTs associated with the CDC (vaccination and gunshot deaths), NASA (global warming, lunar landings, UFOs), and the NOAA (just global warming?) I suspect some friend of the OP is assembling a Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory. I got pretty far along with my own, ten or fifteen years back, but I got distra–Ooh! Shiny! Well, it is true that the original CDC “guns are dangerous to those that own them” study was biased, had the conclusion before the data, and was based upon a system that had never before been used for such data and was doubtful in it’s application. But that study has been debunked many times, and Congress stepped in also. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-government-often-fabricate-statistics/828471/62 "2019-02-03T20:45:39Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Okay, while I can appreciate your reluctance to link to the America-hating fuckstick’s Twitter feed, I would even MORE appreciate a cite to establish that your quote actually came from him (don’t take if personally. … > **[Fact-checking Trump on illegal immigration costs, population](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jan/28/donald-trump/fact-checking-donald-trumps-claim-cost-illegal-imm/)** > > The partial shutdown of the federal government is over — at least for three weeks — since President Donald Trump and law _“We are not even into February and the cost of illegal immigration so far this year is $18,959,495,168. Cost Friday was $603,331,392. There are at least 25,772,342 illegal aliens, not the 11,000,000 that have been reported for years, in our Country.”_ — Donald Trump on Sunday, January 27th, 2019 in a tweet … _Without evidence from Trump or his administration to back this statement, we rate it False._ ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-government-often-fabricate-statistics/828471/63 "2019-02-04T01:16:02Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > It is like criticising the hammer for not being the screwdriver. No, it’s like criticizing a statistic that says it shows the average number of hours worked for not showing the average number of hours worked, and instead deliberately and grossly undercounting the number of hours worked. ---
**Author:** ![scarface54345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@scarface54345](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scarface54345)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-government-often-fabricate-statistics/828471/64 "2019-02-08T23:59:57Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > What “conspiracy” does the OP want us to help prove? That would narrow things down a lot. Well I heard that NASA has doctored some temperatures to make it seem like our global warming/climate change problem is worse than it really is though I don’t know if that is true. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-government-often-fabricate-statistics/828471/65 "2019-02-09T01:40:46Z")
> [@scarface54345](#): > > Well I heard that NASA has doctored some temperatures to make it seem like our global warming/climate change problem is worse than it really is though I don’t know if that is true. Heard from whom? What is the source of the claim? ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-government-often-fabricate-statistics/828471/66 "2019-02-09T02:06:53Z")
> [@Banksiaman](#): > > Well, when seasonally adjusted, they both give you 110% which coincidentally, as you would be aware, is the standard metric of measurement for sportsperson effort per event, divided by the number you first though of. We really need to get pro wrestler’s Scott Steiner opinion on this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msDuNZyYAIQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msDuNZyYAIQ) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-government-often-fabricate-statistics/828471/67 "2019-02-10T20:07:07Z")
> [@scarface54345](#): > > Well I heard that NASA has doctored some temperatures to make it seem like our global warming/climate change problem is worse than it really is though I don’t know if that is true. How do you determine which unfounded rumors to spread, and which to keep to yourself and/or ignore? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-government-often-fabricate-statistics/828471.md?page=3)