# Does the next POTUS have carte blanche?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-next-potus-have-carte-blanche/432865>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [January 9, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-next-potus-have-carte-blanche/432865 "2008-01-09T16:48:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2008, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-next-potus-have-carte-blanche/432865/21 "2008-01-10T12:00:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Der Trihs]  
I think they will. Just as the Nixon pardon did, in my opinion. We’ve made it pretty clear that a President break any law, commit any evil as he likes and not be held accountable.  
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Isn’t that just a result of the power shifting away from Congress to the President, which has been happening since FDR?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2008, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-next-potus-have-carte-blanche/432865/22 "2008-01-10T13:26:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
Isn’t that just a result of the power shifting away from Congress to the President, which has been happening since FDR?  
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Considering the difference between the treatment of Clinton and Bush, no.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2008, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-next-potus-have-carte-blanche/432865/23 "2008-01-10T14:33:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Der Trihs]  
Considering the difference between the treatment of Clinton and Bush, no.  
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Nah, I can’t buy that. Was Clinton ever really in jeopardy, or was it just congress making a lot of noise?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-next-potus-have-carte-blanche/432865/24 "2008-01-10T19:39:43Z")

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[QUOTE=treis]  
[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18412464/](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18412464/)  
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Eh. That bill didn’t require anything-- it just said that Bush needed to “start” bringing troops home with the goal of having them all out by a certain time. Even if he had signed it, he could’ve done exactly what he’s doing now. That bill had no teeth.

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**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-next-potus-have-carte-blanche/432865/25 "2008-01-11T16:49:59Z")

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Is Bush a precedent of bad president, or a president of bad precedent?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-next-potus-have-carte-blanche/432865/26 "2008-01-11T16:50:56Z")

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[QUOTE=The Controvert]  
Is Bush a precedent of bad president, or a president of bad precedent?  
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I’m still waiting for an answer to my post #6.

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**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-next-potus-have-carte-blanche/432865/27 "2008-01-12T02:04:44Z")

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[Colbert]I’ll put you down for a president of bad precedent.[/Colbert]

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