# Does the south have any redeeming qualities? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 24, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-south-have-any-redeeming-qualities/953115 "2021-10-24T20:13:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-south-have-any-redeeming-qualities/953115/42 "2021-10-25T00:15:04Z")
You didn’t get enough discussion on this in your previous threads on the subject under your old account? > [@Should we kick out the south?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-kick-out-the-south/813124): > > Can we agree that the country would be better if the south seceded again? Imagine what we could do with all the money we’d save from not giving them money, and how much we’d improve in education and healthcare. > [@Should the south secede?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-south-secede/802815): > > From what people have said in previous threads, the south seems to bring this country nothing but problems. Should it secede? Would the US be better for it? > [@Why don't people like the south?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-people-like-the-south/802010): > > You don’t hear southerners talking about how much they dislike northerners. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-south-have-any-redeeming-qualities/953115/43 "2021-10-25T00:18:20Z")
Not everyone agrees on which states even form the American South. > **[Which States Are in the South?](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/which-states-are-in-the-south/)** > > On Tuesday, we published the results of a SurveyMonkey Audience poll about which states people think compose the Midwest. The answer is, essentially, that nobod… I have been to two states most people consider Southern. I would say they had: - decent tasting food - good sense of humour - sociable and chatty (though occasionally speaking so slowly you wanted to pull the words out of their mounts) - unpretentious - some good music - good table manners - some women with extremely sexy accents ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-south-have-any-redeeming-qualities/953115/44 "2021-10-25T00:38:03Z")
In order to prove the South has redeeming qualities, Southerners are willing to do absolutely anything except actually redeem themselves. They want to pull the “good people” routine but don’t actually want to do anything about being last in [education](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_educational_attainment), last in [income](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP_per_capita), last in [obesity](https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/prevalence-maps.html), last in [life expectancy](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life_expectancy/life_expectancy.htm)… I mean, the stats aren’t secret. Does the south have redeeming qualities? Probably. Just not money. Or knowledge. Or health. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-south-have-any-redeeming-qualities/953115/45 "2021-10-25T00:41:27Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > Normally, I’d make some joke about North Carolina barbecue, which is in my opinion, the finest barbecue in the country. But this isn’t a jokey-ha-ha thread; this is just some ignorant bigotry on display. Which, in a thread about the south, is pretty damned ironic. Barbecue is one of those religious kinds of things, and every part of the South is going to have strong opinions about it, and everyone’s opinions but theirs is held to be wrong. Not merely incorrect, but WRONG in the sense that vampires are wrong, or child molestation is wrong. > [@ekedolphin](#): > > Democrats in Texas are an oppressed majority. I don’t know if I’d go that far, but I definitely agree that the gerrymandering and voter suppression shenanigans obscure and confuse the actual picture of Texas’ political makeup. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-south-have-any-redeeming-qualities/953115/46 "2021-10-25T00:42:03Z")
There must be some reason northerners are flocking here in droves. [Where are Americans moving? Report shows migration to western, southern states | KUTV](https://kutv.com/news/nation-world/where-are-americans-moving-report-shows-migration-to-western-southern-states) ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-south-have-any-redeeming-qualities/953115/47 "2021-10-25T00:49:43Z")
Moderating: > [@CastletonSnob1](#): > > It seems to me that the American South doesn’t have any redeeming qualities besides good food. > > Are there any other good things about it? You have been warned in prior threads on this topic to leave it alone. I’m banning you from this topic and issuing another formal Warning for disregarding prior moderator instructions. Please do not post to this thread or any others regarding the American South. Full stop. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-south-have-any-redeeming-qualities/953115/48 "2021-10-25T01:08:52Z")
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