# Does the US support \`moderate Islam\` and/or moderate Islamic governments? A lot of people hate USA **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 17, 2013, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-us-support-moderate-islam-and-or-moderate-islamic-governments-a-lot-of-people-hate-usa/663743 "2013-07-17T12:03:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SC2Maar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SC2Maar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SC2Maar)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-us-support-moderate-islam-and-or-moderate-islamic-governments-a-lot-of-people-hate-usa/663743/21 "2013-07-29T00:06:19Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Because they don’t understand the unique role the Turkish military plays in protecting democracy in that state. Also, because they are justifiably worried about the Turkish military getting too big for its boots. Even the most benevolent junta sometimes forgets about giving power back to the people. I believe the US and European officials smart and educated enough to understand the Turkish Army’s role. Perhaps, they warn the army because there is a hidden agenda that they follow. Who knows? Sorry for double post. ---
**Author:** ![SC2Maar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SC2Maar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SC2Maar)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-us-support-moderate-islam-and-or-moderate-islamic-governments-a-lot-of-people-hate-usa/663743/22 "2013-08-04T22:47:36Z")
Please read, very interesting: > **[Turkish Politics and the News III: A Newspaper Called Taraf and its Many...](https://blog2.jhmeyer.net/2009/02/turkish-politics-and-news-iii-newspaper.html)** ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-us-support-moderate-islam-and-or-moderate-islamic-governments-a-lot-of-people-hate-usa/663743/23 "2013-08-05T17:13:59Z")
> [@SC2Maar](#): > > This is only a theory/idea/whatever. First, I personally don’t believe that the US officials persuades Erdogan and his government to take steps towards a Muslim theocracy and I know I can’t prove this theory. But I said there were a lot of people, columnist etc. who believe this theory to be true… I believe the US and European officials smart and educated enough to understand the Turkish Army’s role. Perhaps, they warn the army because there is a hidden agenda that they follow. Who knows? Could it be that you believe the “hidden agenda” theory(ies) and are part of the contingent who “hate USA”, are not willing to own up to it, but instead are taking refuge in the “who me, I’m just asking questions” routine? Or maybe not. Who can tell? A lot of people think so, but of course I am not one of them. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SC2Maar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SC2Maar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SC2Maar)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-us-support-moderate-islam-and-or-moderate-islamic-governments-a-lot-of-people-hate-usa/663743/24 "2013-08-05T20:17:00Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Could it be that you believe the “hidden agenda” theory(ies) and are part of the contingent who “hate USA”, are not willing to own up to it, but instead are taking refuge in the “who me, I’m just asking questions” routine? > > Or maybe not. Who can tell? A lot of people think so, but of course I am not one of them. 🙂 Nope, hating USA is childish. I am neither hardcore leftist nor Islamist. Why would I hate USA? Let us revert to the original topic. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-us-support-moderate-islam-and-or-moderate-islamic-governments-a-lot-of-people-hate-usa/663743.md?page=1)