# Does this article not piss you off?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 15, 2004, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393 "2004-10-15T16:08:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![saluki\_fan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@saluki\_fan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saluki_fan)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/1 "2004-10-15T16:08:36Z")

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[http://newshound.de.siu.edu/voices04/stories/storyReader$877](http://newshound.de.siu.edu/voices04/stories/storyReader%24877) After reading this article, does it not piss you off? I’m sorry, but this article is outrageous to me on many MANY levels. Before I go put my two cents in on this article, what all do you think of it?

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**Author:** ![saluki\_fan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@saluki\_fan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saluki_fan)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/2 "2004-10-15T16:09:39Z")

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> [@saluki\_fan](#):
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> [http://newshound.de.siu.edu/voices04/stories/storyReader$877](http://newshound.de.siu.edu/voices04/stories/storyReader%24877) After reading this article, does it not piss you off? I’m sorry, but this article is outrageous to me on many MANY levels. Before I go put my two cents in on this article, what all do you think of it?

well I must be linking wrong, but here is the link (you may have to copy and paste it): [http://newshound.de.siu.edu/voices04/stories/storyReader$877](http://newshound.de.siu.edu/voices04/stories/storyReader%24877)

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/3 "2004-10-15T16:16:29Z")

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Racist much?

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> Most Americans are stupid, and operate under the assumption that because they are American (white Americans) they have the right to interfere with and dictate the social and cultural practices of other countries, and buy into the false reasons given by the U.S. government. However, I believe people of color are more skeptical of the U.S. government because we are well aware of its treachery and historical tendency to lie and manufacture the consent of the white population for domestic and foreign policies.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/4 "2004-10-15T16:24:01Z")

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Lack of editing skills much?

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> And second, that the United States’ eradicate ratification of international human rights treaties and its challenges regarding affirmative action show that the government and it white constituents have a stake in making sure minorities stay poor and lack the access necessary to assert their political rights.

And what are the Bush Administration’s “realist policies”?

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**Author:** ![Dog80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6bbea6/32.png) [@Dog80](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dog80)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/5 "2004-10-15T16:31:01Z")

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Fixed link: [http://newshound.de.siu.edu/voices04/stories/storyReader$877](http://newshound.de.siu.edu/voices04/stories/storyReader%24877)

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**Author:** ![Dog80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6bbea6/32.png) [@Dog80](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dog80)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/6 "2004-10-15T16:34:45Z")

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And no, the article doesn’t piss me off. First, I am not an American, and second. most of these arguments have been used by the Democrats too.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/7 "2004-10-15T17:00:47Z")

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> [@Dog80](#):
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> And no, the article doesn’t piss me off. First, I am not an American, and second. most of these arguments have been used by the Democrats too.

Not being an American means never having to apologize for not being pissed off.

And who are “the Democrats” who have supposedly been saying these things?

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**Author:** ![Dog80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6bbea6/32.png) [@Dog80](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dog80)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/8 "2004-10-15T17:15:30Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Not being an American means never having to apologize for not being pissed off.

I don’t understand. Do I have to apologise for not being pissed off? The article is critisizing Americans. I am not an American, so by definition I cannot be offended by that article.

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> And who are “the Democrats” who have supposedly been saying these things?

The article is (among other things) questioning the legality of the Iraq war, stating the fact that no WMDs were found and is against abolishing AA. If I am not mistaken, this is very close to Kerry’s rhetoric.

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**Author:** ![wisernow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@wisernow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wisernow)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/9 "2004-10-15T17:19:08Z")

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I am not an American and so no comments on the “racist” part of the article. But I agree with this a full one hundred percent:

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> Most Americans are stupid, and operate under the assumption that because they are American (white Americans) they have the right to interfere with and dictate the social and cultural practices of other countries, and buy into the false reasons given by the U.S. government.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/10 "2004-10-15T17:24:46Z")

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> [@wisernow](#):
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> I am not an American and so no comments on the “racist” part of the article. But I agree with this a full one hundred percent:

Most Americans are stupid the way most Europeans are stupid…the way most of the world is stupid. Childish name-calling proves nothing, and just shows a lack of intelligent reasoning by the caller.  
So there, Mr. Poopy-Pants!  
😃

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/11 "2004-10-15T17:29:35Z")

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> [@wisernow](#):
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> I am not an American and so no comments on the “racist” part of the article. But I agree with this a full one hundred percent:

I had a really snarky and rude comment all typed out but I take it back, tentatively.

Which Americans that you know are you basing this on?

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/12 "2004-10-15T17:32:24Z")

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sum contrees r stoopider than uthers.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/13 "2004-10-15T17:43:51Z")

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As a white American male I can say that it doesn’t offend me, and is pretty much spot-on.

But it does hyperbolize a bit.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/14 "2004-10-15T17:44:04Z")

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I am merely stating my lack of taking offense that you are not offended, **Dog80**. If that is unknowingly offending on my part, I retract it entirely.  
It’s been that kind of week.

As for the Democrats, I don’t recall seeing that type of racially-inspired rhetoric coming from any figures in the party, not even Al Sharpton, who I try not to recognize as a Democrat anyway.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/15 "2004-10-15T17:44:16Z")

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You know, if I’m confronted with a statement that begins “Most Americans are…”, it isn’t getting a pass from extended scrutiny unless it goes: “Most Americans are living in America.”

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**Author:** ![wisernow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@wisernow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wisernow)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/16 "2004-10-15T17:45:52Z")

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> [@Bruce\_Daddy](#):
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> I had a really snarky and rude comment all typed out but I take it back, tentatively.
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> Which Americans that you know are you basing this on?

Sorry, but my comments are not based on any specific set of Americans. They are derived only from the actions of the country called America, governed by leaders that the Americans elected to represent them. The American government has amply demonstrated the essence of the post by their recent activities including but not limited to the invasion of Iraq.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/17 "2004-10-15T17:46:29Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> You know, if I’m confronted with a statement that begins “Most Americans are…”, it isn’t getting a pass from extended scrutiny unless it goes: “Most Americans are living in America.”

What about “…English speakers”?

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/18 "2004-10-15T18:02:44Z")

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> [@wisernow](#):
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> Sorry, but my comments are not based on any specific set of Americans. They are derived only from the actions of the country called America, governed by leaders that the Americans elected to represent them. The American government has amply demonstrated the essence of the post by their recent activities including but not limited to the invasion of Iraq.

Ah, I’m convinced. Most (white) Americans _are_ stupid and assume they have the right to interfere with and dictate the **social and cultural** practices of other countries. I was thinking with my tiny brush but I have since located my wide one. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Blackclaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e68b1a/32.png) [@Blackclaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackclaw)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/19 "2004-10-15T18:45:36Z")

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> [@wisernow](#):
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> Sorry, but my comments are not based on any specific set of Americans. They are derived only from the actions of the country called America, governed by leaders that the Americans elected to represent them. The American government has amply demonstrated the essence of the post by their recent activities including but not limited to the invasion of Iraq.

Are you representative of the citizens of whatever nation you hail from? If so, let me know where it is so I can avoid it’s pretentious ignorance.

Or maybe we’s dum merickans can invade it.

Never favored the Iraq invasion by the way. Never voted for Bush Perhaps that gives you a clue as to my annoyance with your broad brush. But what’s more, this is another sign that folks can no longer simply disagree. If one holds a different world view, they must be stupid. And you have taken that a level higher. Not only are those who hold a different opinion than you stupid, the whole nation they come from is also stupid. This is the logic of a moron.

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**Author:** ![Genghis\_Bob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Genghis\_Bob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Genghis_Bob)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-article-not-piss-you-off/269393/20 "2004-10-15T18:56:45Z")

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White, male American checking in here. And not pissed off.

I don’t know Tommy Curry, and I don’t know how many Americans he’s met. If he chooses to generalize about all Americans based on the actions of our current administration, then that says more about him than it does about me, or the country.

If I got pissed off every time somebody took a swipe at me, generally or specifically, then I’d be walking around in a state of perpetual pissedoffittude. If I got pissed off every time a college student said something stupid in public. . . well, you know the rest.

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