Does this count as littering?

So who tickets God when it rains?

Rest stops in Nevada can be a hundred miles apart. So, just hold it in until you explode? :eek:

As long as we’re talking piddly amounts (rather than a whole truck load), then I don’t think it’s littering.

But I would be careful with how you discard banana peels. They really can be hazardous if left on a trail.

Yes it’s littering. What if everyone deposited food waste in the same spot on a regular basis? What if someone threw their banana peel in your front yard? The dead raccoon that was going after the apple core tossed out a car window?

Yeah, I’d say something that tiny, indistinguishable from ground cover in the woods and biodegradable doesn’t even come close to counting as litter. Plus, are there any animals that actually seek out grape stems to eat? If not, then there’s also not a correlation to it encouraging scavenging and proliferation of such on the trails / visitor areas.

If a park ranger sees you tossing food waste you’re gonna get, at least, a lecture – “But it’s only an orange peel.” “Do you see any orange trees here? Well, then pick it up and pack it out.”

Here’s the Leave No Trace website. I’ll tell you the answer before the question: No. Pack it out.

Can I leave biodegradable waste (e.g. an apple core or banana peel) in the woods, as long as I hide or bury it?

My previous neighbors and good friends used to put left over food waste out to ‘feed’ wildlife.

It was the only thing that REALLY pissed me off about them (otherwise great folks).

I was walking the dogs once and ran into my neighbors. My dog then happened on to a ham bone the neighbor had put out for the ‘wildlife’. I got it away from the dog and got a bit upset with my neighbor.

We would watch each others houses during vacations and such, and once, at their place a fox came up to me just like a friendly dog. It was clear that they had been feeding it. They did not understand that they where not doing the fox any favors.

Car window cigarette smokers are asses. Smoke in your car? I don’t care if you BURN in your car. Don’t litter your shit out the window while either moving or standing still.

Usually not one for semantics, but I’ll say a bit more than barely. Like - significantly more disgusting.

A used condom is probably some young’uns who don’t have their own place showing a little responsibility (they’d be more responsible if they took it with them, but I get it). OTOH, those who throw their cig butts on the ground are just fucking assholes.

Animals are not supposed to be given cooked bones, because they can splinter.

I live by a creek and regularly feed the ducks and other birds that live in it - but NOT bread. I give them birdseed, because bread is not part of their natural diet.

True, but if people would field-strip their butts, like I learned to do in the service, then cigs wouldn’t be a problem. What’s field-stripping? Slit the paper that holds just the tobacco, and shake out whatever tobacco shreds are left. Tear the paper into teeny-tiny pieces, and cast them to the winds. Take the filter home with you to dispose of properly. You’re welcome. :slight_smile:

I vote that it’s littering. Take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but footprints.
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The standard for most things isn’t “what if everyone did it” or else we would have absurd results. Should a store have to have 100,000 handicapped parking spaces just in case “everyone” showed up at once? Policy is based upon general behavior.

If allowing the tossing of grape stems would cause the woods to be littered with them, then I can see punishing this behavior, but since nobody who does this is likely to be caught, those who do it are not deterred by any law to the contrary, and it doesn’t cause a problem, I don’t see why there needs to be a law against it.

Of course, the worst aspect to cigarette filters is that they are saturated with some nasty stuff, and some animals, thinking they might be food, eat them and are poisoned badly or fatally. Mostly birds, I think, which need to eat a lot and tend to be somewhat less discriminating. But the truly sad part is that filters are formulated to turn brown with exposure to smoke so that it looks like they are doing something when the reality is that all they really do is keep the smoker from getting tobacco flakes in their mouths.

Leave only footprints. Take only pictures. The same way I treat my kitchen.

while technically they are biodegradable, in actual practice they don’t really seem to be so. Maybe if you buried them deeply inside a compost heap. Same with orange peels, they linger forever when left on the exposed ground.

Oh, I’m glad that anti-littering enforcement is targeting people who drop butts. The world is not your ashtray.

Someone walking past me in the other direction dropped it, and I smelled something funny after about 10 feet and turned around. There were no flames, but it was smoking like a cherry bomb, and when I went back to it, I could see orange embers. So I stomped on all the orange, and then poured water over everything. I had two 16oz bottles of water, and I poured one whole one over it. It was a really hot, dry day, and he’d just happened to drop it on a couple of small twigs with leaves attached.

It might be that it wouldn’t have spread, but I like to think I did something good that day.

Why carry the grape stems into the woods at all? Just adds weight to your pack!

Someone told me a story once about cutting up a road kill deer that he picked up off the road and it had something like 10,000 cigarette butts in its stomach. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but it is really disgusting.