# Does this "Los Angeles, Mexico" TV station billboard really exist? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [April 27, 2005, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-los-angeles-mexico-tv-station-billboard-really-exist/301303 "2005-04-27T02:21:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-los-angeles-mexico-tv-station-billboard-really-exist/301303/21 "2005-04-27T21:16:25Z")
Add me to the “What’s the big deal?” camp. My first thought when I looked at the picture was that it’s obviously an ad for a Spanish-language news show, and is pointing out that there are a lot of hispanic people in L.A.; You’d have to really be a loser to be offended by that. ---
**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-los-angeles-mexico-tv-station-billboard-really-exist/301303/22 "2005-04-28T04:04:04Z")
> [@scotandrsn](#): > > Did it ever occur to you that at least some of the Mexicans in LA are, in fact, here legally? How does that make it “Los Angeles, Mexico”? I spent some time in a small Japanese city with a large population of American expats. Since I’m not an obnoxious moron, I never referred to it as “Utsunomiya, USA”. If a guy has such an ethnic chip on his shoulder that he can’t stand calling himself American, maybe he should think about moving back to the old country. Except that the old country either sucks, or if it doesn’t suck any more, it won’t take him. > [@](#): > > What sort of bullshit fascism is this? It’s called patriotism. It’s still legal. > [@even sven](#): > > Of course, I think it’s no more offensive than a sign for a station playing Italian love songs saying “San Francisco, Italy” or a Hindi Music stations saying “Houston, India.” I’d like to start a station that plays nothing but Sousa marches and put up a billboard advertising it as “All American”, with a picture of a white guy saluting the American flag. That’d make you nervous, wouldn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-los-angeles-mexico-tv-station-billboard-really-exist/301303/23 "2005-04-28T06:01:30Z")
> [@](#): > > I’d like to start a station that plays nothing but Sousa marches and put up a billboard advertising it as “All American”, with a picture of a white guy saluting the American flag. That’d make you nervous, wouldn’t it? I think it’d be kind of cool. Of course, the playlist would be sort of short. Now, if the guy saluting the flag was David Duke or John Tanton or Pat Buchanan I’d be a bit concerned–though not surprised. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-los-angeles-mexico-tv-station-billboard-really-exist/301303/24 "2005-04-28T06:47:56Z")
This didn’t stay very GQ like. Factually, this is a very small TV station that likely gets slaughtered in the ratings for Spanish language local news casts (they likely would finish a distant third) trying a gimmick to increase its viewership. I’m sure it has a little. The local Spanish language paper in L.A. “La Opinion” doesn’t appear to have covered this story at all. ---
**Author:** ![chukhung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@chukhung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chukhung)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-los-angeles-mexico-tv-station-billboard-really-exist/301303/25 "2005-04-28T14:50:15Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > I’d like to start a station that plays nothing but Sousa marches > > I think it’d be kind of cool. Of course, the playlist would be sort of short. If you think [135 marches](http://www.dws.org/sousa/works.htm) isn’t enough, Sousa also has 15 operettas, 70 songs, and a number of other works to his credit. ---
**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-los-angeles-mexico-tv-station-billboard-really-exist/301303/26 "2005-05-03T16:52:43Z")
More on the culprits. Liberman Broadcasting, owner of Channel 62, which put the billboard up, has been in the news before. They’re in hot water with lesbian and gay advocates for airing TV and radio shows that positively portray violence against homosexuals. Several major advertisers withdrew their ads on the station as a result. [Details here.](http://www.glaad.org/media/release_detail.php?id=3785) Then there’s the Liberman show "[Gana la Verde](http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/sunnews/news/opinion/9560042.htm) " (“Win the Green [Card]”) where people do Fear Factor-type stuff like eat worms to compete for free services from an immigration lawyer. Apparently the human dignity of illegal immigrants won’t be getting in the way of Liberman Broadcasting’s bottom line. One would expect that Liberman Broadcasting, which is officially a “Hispanic-owned company” (thus entitling them to special “enhancements” when they have business before the FCC), would steer clear of this sort of thing. But wait a minute - they’re not all that Hispanic after all. The Liberman family migrated to Poland in 1492, when they were expelled from Spain. Probably not quite what the government had in mind when it created affirmative action, but hey, it was good enough for the FCC. So who’s still standing up for these exploitative, homophobic, anti-American scumbags? ---
**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-los-angeles-mexico-tv-station-billboard-really-exist/301303/27 "2005-05-03T17:53:55Z")
And LA radio station KFI has responded. [Scroll down to see the KFI billboard.](http://www.johnandkenshow.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-los-angeles-mexico-tv-station-billboard-really-exist/301303/28 "2005-05-03T18:44:02Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > So who’s still standing up for these exploitative, homophobic, anti-American scumbags? I don’t approve of the homophobia and all, but I still don’t have a problem with the billboard. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-los-angeles-mexico-tv-station-billboard-really-exist/301303.md?page=1)