# Does this Rolling Stone magazine cover offend you?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 17, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774 "2013-07-17T18:10:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/221 "2013-07-18T19:42:27Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> It’s probably confirmation bias, but it seems like ever since that incident, the shooting sprees have increased ten fold.

Not quite.

> **[Lists of school shootings in the United States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States)**
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> Lists of school shootings in the United States include:

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/222 "2013-07-18T21:35:49Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Do you feel that way about all the media coverage? In a perfect world would his name and face have been omitted from any reporting of the bombing?

That’s a really good question; is there a point to everyone learning the name and face of someone who did a heinous thing, and will either spend the rest of his days in jail or be put to death?

> [@Shakes](#):
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> Meh, I don’t know where the line should be drawn, but a good place to start is by NOT putting their mug on the cover of a magazine with their best come hither look.\<snip\>

Exactly.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/223 "2013-07-18T21:39:56Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Not quite.
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> [Lists of school shootings in the United States - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States)

From that site it looks to me like school shootings have increased dramatically in the last, say, 20 years. Is that because young people are going crazy more, or is it because they have a platform for infamy (like getting their picture on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine)?

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**Author:** ![papergirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/aca169/32.png) [@papergirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/papergirl)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/224 "2013-07-18T22:18:29Z")

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> [@Schism](#):
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> I think it’s actually brilliant. When I see that picture I don’t think “what a cool guy.” I think “how did a normal looking kid who took selfies become radicalized?” Which is the real question here. I submit (without reading the article) that this was Rolling Stones intent.

This, exactly. I think the cover makes a great point. He’s a good looking kid–just like a LOT of good looking kids…what the hell happened? I hope the article addresses that.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/225 "2013-07-18T22:51:28Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> From that site it looks to me like school shootings have increased dramatically in the last, say, 20 years. Is that because young people are going crazy more, or is it because they have a platform for infamy (like getting their picture on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine)?

Look again. If you notice, a lot of those are single person shootings. In years past, those weren’t counted as “school shootings” but “murders that took place on school property.” The terminology changed, so it looks like more are happening today.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/226 "2013-07-18T23:32:45Z")

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Well dang. I just stopped at three places that sell magazines and couldn’t find a copy: Walmart, grocery store, gas station.

I’ll check the drug store tomorrow; I know they actually carry RS, but I’m not sure about the others. Was Walmart one of the places that said they were not going to carry this copy?

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/227 "2013-07-18T23:39:34Z")

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7-Eleven isn’t selling the August RS either. That’s at least 7 retail chains.  
[http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/7-eleven-joins-boycott-controversial-rolling-stone-boston-bomber-issue-article-1.1402590](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/7-eleven-joins-boycott-controversial-rolling-stone-boston-bomber-issue-article-1.1402590)

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**Author:** ![scootergirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@scootergirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scootergirl)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/228 "2013-07-18T23:45:38Z")

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Not in the least.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/229 "2013-07-18T23:55:57Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Can anyone point me to a list of retailers that boycotted TIME Magazine because they retouched [Stalin’s Man of the Year photo](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:JStalin_Secretary_general_CCCP_1942.jpg)?

Guess not.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/230 "2013-07-18T23:56:21Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Well dang. I just stopped at three places that sell magazines and couldn’t find a copy: Walmart, grocery store, gas station.

The CNN link says it doesn’t hit newsstands until August 3.

ETA: And now I can’t find it on CNN. But I know the issue isn’t out yet. The most current one is with Johnny Depp as Tonto on the cover.

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/231 "2013-07-18T23:59:16Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> The CNN link says it doesn’t hit newsstands until August 3.

:smack:

[Johnny Carson]I did not know that.[/JC]

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/232 "2013-07-19T00:06:22Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> > Can anyone point me to a list of retailers that boycotted TIME Magazine because they retouched [Stalin’s Man of the Year photo](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:JStalin_Secretary_general_CCCP_1942.jpg)?
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> Guess not.

I remember in 1979 Time Magazine named Ayatollah Khomeini Man of the Year. It was controversial at the time (although I don’t remember boycotts). But Time’s Man of the Year was supposed to be the person who, for better or worse, most affected the news that year. I suppose that the phrase “man of the year” might have confused people, as it sounds like an honor from the local fraternal order. “Newsmaker of the Year” might have been less controversial and more gender-neutral.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/233 "2013-07-19T00:08:10Z")

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Right. Does the Rolling Stone cover imply that they love the guy and think he’s peachy?

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/234 "2013-07-19T00:09:56Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I remember in 1979 Time Magazine named Ayatollah Khomeini Man of the Year. It was controversial at the time (although I don’t remember boycotts). But Time’s Man of the Year was supposed to be the person who, for better or worse, most affected the news that year. I suppose that the phrase “man of the year” might have confused people, as it sounds like an honor from the local fraternal order. “Newsmaker of the Year” might have been less controversial and more gender-neutral.

And of course that’s why Time’s Person of the Year for 2001 was Rudy Giuliani for his response to the September 11th terrorist attacks and not anybody who was involved in the planning or execution of the same attacks. That bothered me more than this magazine cover does because it was so patronizing.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/235 "2013-07-19T00:16:43Z")

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I have no problem with the cover, but when I try to imagine the magazine staring me in the face from my coffee table, I feel very uncomfortable. Monsters really are not supposed to look like that.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/236 "2013-07-19T00:23:29Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> I have no problem with the cover, but when I try to imagine the magazine staring me in the face from my coffee table, I feel very uncomfortable. Monsters really are not supposed to look like that.

What if the monster looks like a decorated Canadian military base commander?

Hard to swallow too.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/237 "2013-07-19T00:33:17Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I remember in 1979 Time Magazine named Ayatollah Khomeini Man of the Year. It was controversial at the time (although I don’t remember boycotts). But Time’s Man of the Year was supposed to be the person who, for better or worse, most affected the news that year. I suppose that the phrase “man of the year” might have confused people, as it sounds like an honor from the local fraternal order. “Newsmaker of the Year” might have been less controversial and more gender-neutral.

Hitler, Stalin, and Khrushchev all were named Man of the Year by _Time_ as well.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/238 "2013-07-19T00:48:33Z")

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Sure, but I wasn’t alive for any of those years.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/239 "2013-07-19T00:48:48Z")

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> [@Emiliana](#):
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> What does this have to do with the expense of a trial? And have you read the article by any chance?

Some of those fangirls are now going to be looked at real close by the authorities, as they should. However, why keep stirring up a sick interested in this monster?

And I don’t have to read it, it’s the same slop trotted out when Paul Bernardo or Ted Bundy were on trial. You get really strange morbid sexual fascination from certain circles. Big deal. A broken record. Nothing new. Move on, a rag like RS should know better and stop sexualizing monsters.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-rolling-stone-magazine-cover-offend-you/663774/240 "2013-07-19T00:50:56Z")

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> [@Andiethewestie](#):
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> Some of those fangirls are now going to be looked at real close by the authorities, as they should.

Doubtful- and they really shouldn’t.

> [@](#):
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> Move on, a rag like RS should know better and stop sexualizing monsters.

You’ve already acknowledged that this was going on before RS ran this photo (because the photo has been available to everyone for months). And there;s nothing sexual about the photo. So how did they sexualize him?

So what was that about the expense of a trial?

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