# Does this style of facial hair have a name? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 18, 2011, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144 "2011-08-18T12:20:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/21 "2011-08-18T16:58:35Z")
It’s considered a goatee and moustache: [Beard styles: how to choose the best beard style | All About BEARDS](http://beards.org/styles.php) ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/22 "2011-08-18T17:33:38Z")
[quote=“Gary “Wombat” Robson, post:16, topic:593144”] A little judgmental and insulting for GQ, aren’t you? Style varies from place to place and changes with time. If you wish to be condescending and rude about it, please feel free to open a thread in a different forum. [/QUOTE] Easy man, I didn’t call anyone out personally, and I was just restating what was said in the 3 or so posts above mine as being kind of interesting. You mods seem to have gone a little power-mad in the last year or so… ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/23 "2011-08-18T17:41:18Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > The goatee is _not_ a full beard. The guy with the shaved head does not have a full beard, lacking the connection to the sideburns. ---
**Author:** ![Dufus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c77e96/32.png) [@Dufus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dufus)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/24 "2011-08-18T18:01:39Z")
A few of the many variations among goatees: [http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t205/dennismenace56/goattee.jpg](http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t205/dennismenace56/goattee.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Randy\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ee7513/32.png) [@Randy\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randy_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/25 "2011-08-18T18:04:55Z")
[quote=“Gary “Wombat” Robson, post:19, topic:593144”] “circle beard.” [/QUOTE] This is the answer the OP is looking for. A Van Dyke is a goatee and mustache that are not connected to each other. When they are connected, it’s a circle beard. However, as others pointed out, there is no central arbiter of facial hair nomenclature. Lots of people use “Van Dyke” to refer to circle beards. I sported a circle beard for years, and referred to it as a Van Dyke, until I did a bit of research and discovered that wasn’t quite right. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/26 "2011-08-18T18:12:08Z")
Around here, they’re known as “French Beards” or, less charitably, “French Cunts”. ---
**Author:** ![nivlac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@nivlac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nivlac)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/27 "2011-08-18T18:12:40Z")
I just call it the [Walter White](http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1119469056/tt0903747). ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/28 "2011-08-18T18:17:16Z")
In undergrad we referred to them as the “toilet seat,” or occasionally “toilet bowl beard.” I have no idea if this was just something we said or is in any way standard use, and I am extremely reluctant to google “toilet seat beard” to find out. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/29 "2011-08-18T20:05:01Z")
I concur with **Randy Seltzer** that “circle beard” is the correct term. Google “circle beard” and you will find that this term is widely used and refers exactly to this type of facial hair. ---
**Author:** ![obbn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d6d6ee/32.png) [@obbn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obbn)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/30 "2011-08-18T20:46:35Z")
> [@Satchmo](#): > > Due to it’s popularity with a certain social class, we tend to refer to it as a ‘chin-mullet’. > > i e Everyone that would have had a mullet in 1990 today has the chin-mullet. Christ almighty. You are seriously telling me that what I have had on my face for 10 years now is refered to as a chin mullet AND to top it off I am a member of a “certain social class”? Wow, thanks for the depression that has now set in, I am sure I will get over it in a few years. Just out of curiosity, since I didn’t know I was in this “class”, what exactly am I supposed to do for fun, what clothes am I supposed to wear and such… I am so confused now. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/31 "2011-08-18T20:55:13Z")
> [@obbn](#): > > Christ almighty. You are seriously telling me that what I have had on my face for 10 years now is refered to as a chin mullet AND to top it off I am a member of a “certain social class”? Wow, thanks for the depression that has now set in, I am sure I will get over it in a few years. > > Just out of curiosity, since I didn’t know I was in this “class”, what exactly am I supposed to do for fun, what clothes am I supposed to wear and such… I am so confused now. :smack: Hey, looking at author photos I notice that a lot of thriller writers have this look, these days. Shaved head, this beard. (Just the male thriller writers, though.) So if you’re a thriller writer you’re okay. If you’re not, write one. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/32 "2011-08-18T21:04:00Z")
All the former Navy Seals I know (8 or 9?) have this as well. I don’t use the above referenced term in front of them, of course. . . ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/33 "2011-08-18T21:23:11Z")
In my part of the world, the common name for that style is “p0rn donut” ---
**Author:** ![obbn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d6d6ee/32.png) [@obbn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obbn)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/34 "2011-08-18T22:17:52Z")
> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#): > > Hey, looking at author photos I notice that a lot of thriller writers have this look, these days. Shaved head, this beard. (Just the male thriller writers, though.) So if you’re a thriller writer you’re okay. If you’re not, write one. Well, I do have the shaven head, because it is mostly bald. But as anyone can see from my previous post, I am certainly not qualified to be a written or thrillers or any other tome. This post has shaken my image of myself, I fear when out in public people are now going to whisper: “it’s one of those people, get away from him Timmy”. And I just thought it looked good on me. ---
**Author:** ![Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hero_From_Sector_7G)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/35 "2011-08-18T22:48:21Z")
Everyone I’ve ever met has called this style the Goatee. There’s even a [Template!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbHU8qOy2c4) ---
**Author:** ![obbn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d6d6ee/32.png) [@obbn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obbn)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/36 "2011-08-18T22:56:02Z")
> [@obbn](#): > > Well, I do have the shaven head, because it is mostly bald. But as anyone can see from my previous post, I am certainly not qualified to be a **written** or thrillers or any other tome. This post has shaken my image of myself, I fear when out in public people are now going to whisper: “it’s one of those people, get away from him Timmy”. And I just thought it looked good on me. Writer, I meant writer. Man, maybe this whole chin mullet thing is really starting to affect me! ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/37 "2011-08-18T23:24:48Z")
In the Pacific NW, it’s just been called a goatee for years and years. I don’t think it’s associated with rednecks at all. I only recently shaved the mustache part of mine. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/38 "2011-08-18T23:47:39Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Easy man, I didn’t call anyone out personally, and I was just restating what was said in the 3 or so posts above mine as being kind of interesting. The three posts above you didn’t use loaded words like “fashion roadkill.” > [@bump](#): > > You mods seem to have gone a little power-mad in the last year or so… Power-mad? Nah. You weren’t warned or anything. It’s just that every forum in the Straight Dope has different rules, different etiquette, different feeling. What you posted would have been fine in GD, IMHO, or the Pit. But this is GQ. What you wrote didn’t help at all to answer the OP. It was just a potshot at people who have facial hair you don’t approve of. ---
**Author:** ![Satchmo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/satchmo/32/4223_2.png) [@Satchmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satchmo)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/39 "2011-08-19T00:08:55Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Due to that particular popularity, and the way the facial hair ends abruptly at those vertical lines as if chopped off, I’ve long thought of it as the “redneck chop.” I’ve been looking for a term that people who don’t have access to my thoughts would recognize. > > I like the term “chin-mullet.” Is it widely used, or just something that you and some of your friends coined? I don’t know how widespread it is. I really don’t dislike the style or the folks that wear it. Heck, my brother and two of my nephews still wear the mullet and the matching chin-mullet, that’s how they refer to them now. (Though to be honest, my bro is down to a skullet now.) Everyone that hears the term, thinks about everyone they ever saw wearing a mullet and everyone that now has the chin-mullet and sees the connection. I’ve never really thought either style looked good on me, and I’m definitely down to skullet territory. (Mullet on a balding guy for those playing at home.) ---
**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144/40 "2011-08-19T00:16:11Z")
In Spanish it’s called a “barba candado” or “padlock beard”. Some samples: [http://www.google.com/search?q=images:barba+candado&hl=en&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=r6pNTsPfMLDEsQLLw8TKBg&ved=0CBwQsAQ&biw=666&bih=300](http://www.google.com/search?q=images:barba+candado&hl=en&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=r6pNTsPfMLDEsQLLw8TKBg&ved=0CBwQsAQ&biw=666&bih=300) (the majority of these images are SFW, but I can’t vouch for all of them). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-this-style-of-facial-hair-have-a-name/593144.md?page=3)