# Does Trump believe his own lies?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 2, 2017, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-believe-his-own-lies/795312 "2017-09-02T08:00:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-believe-his-own-lies/795312/21 "2017-09-05T17:10:32Z")

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You are not.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-believe-his-own-lies/795312/22 "2017-09-05T17:20:11Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Well, hell. I guess I’m a bullshitter.

Don’t sell yourself short. You’re a bullshit _artist._

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-believe-his-own-lies/795312/23 "2017-09-05T18:04:55Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> No he doesn’t. He’s a Bullshitter. That’s worse than a liar.
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> let me 'splain.
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> A liar knows what the truth is. A liar usually will usually tell the truth except when his own needs dictate differently. He will lie for a specific reason and to reach a specific goal.
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> A bullshitter knows the truth but just doesn’t giver a damn. A bullshitter will lie any time for any reason, or for no reason at all. If he can spew horse shit and get you to fall for it, it’s a rush. He made you look stupid. He put one over on you. It’s a power thing.
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> Trump is a bullshitter. He will lie any time, ALL the time, just to do it.  
> And a bullshitter is more dangerous than a liar.

this sounds right - and dementia on top of it

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-believe-his-own-lies/795312/24 "2017-09-05T18:38:43Z")

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A liar has enough respect for his audience to try to make something sound believable. A bullshitter doesn’t care.  
If you call out a liar he will backpeddle and make excuses. A bullshitter will either ignore you or double down on his bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-believe-his-own-lies/795312/25 "2017-09-05T18:55:54Z")

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Trump is Chunk from the Goonies, minus anything good about Chunk

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-believe-his-own-lies/795312/26 "2017-09-05T19:51:33Z")

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In the opera _Das Rheingold_, one of the characters asks, “Are you malicious, or merely insane?”

This question can be asked about those we deal with in life, and it is always best to assume they are malicious.

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