# Does Trump calling Warren Pocahontas, make it OK to call him Adolph Drumpf? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008 "2016-05-29T16:44:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Pylesos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc348/32.png) [@Pylesos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pylesos)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/161 "2016-06-02T02:50:42Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > She’s a brilliant, influential, highly-educated, female, well-respected Democrat. Are those opinions or facts? If they’re facts, how do they stack up against Warren’s claims to be a Native American? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/162 "2016-06-02T02:56:52Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > She’s a brilliant, influential, highly-educated, female, well-respected Democrat. > [@Pylesos](#): > > Are those opinions or facts? If they’re facts, how do they stack up against Warren’s claims to be a Native American? There’s no connection. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/163 "2016-06-02T03:17:04Z")
> [@Pylesos](#): > > Are those opinions or facts? (Post de-stupidified). They’re facts. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/164 "2016-06-02T04:34:58Z")
Since Pylesos has recognized the possibility that his claims about Warren are wrong, I can only figure the onus is on him to prove her guilt, not on us to prove her innocence. By the way, check her out in the 2004 _Frontline_ episode titled “The Secret History of the Credit Card.” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/165 "2016-06-02T04:37:14Z")
Nunh-_uh_! Because its like a theory, which isn’t proven! I mean, it may be a fact, but if you _believe_ its a fact, then that’s just, like, your _opinion_, man! ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/166 "2016-06-02T05:27:19Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Myself, I attribute her advancement to a combination of intelligence and an overpowering sexual magnetism. But maybe that’s just me. Probably. You laugh, but I saw her speak at a law school graduation. Not bad. But I am old. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/167 "2016-06-02T05:35:48Z")
Live fast, die young. Couldn’t have been easier, and I fucked that up too! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/168 "2016-06-02T06:32:00Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > As I perceive it, a form was filled out in 1985 which nobody cared about. This is just laughable. A form was filled out? Is that like “mistakes were made”? A form was filled out… but elves? Why can’t you just say “she filled out a form”, since that’s what happened. Why do you need to make it sound like she was a passive observer in the process? Some would make a mountain out of this mole hill, but no need to make an anthill out of it as a counter attack. Whether anyone cared about it or not is not really something we can know. All we know is that someone cared about enough to ask her to fill out the form in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/169 "2016-06-02T06:40:31Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > This is just laughable. A form was filled out? Is that like “mistakes were made”? A form was filled out… but elves? Why can’t you just say “she filled out a form”, since that’s what happened. Why do you need to make it sound like she was a passive observer in the process? > > Some would make a mountain out of this mole hill, but no need to make an anthill out of it as a counter attack. > > Whether anyone cared about it or not is not really something we can know. All we know is that someone cared about enough to ask her to fill out the form in the first place. Because, as he said, he doesn’t know if she personally filled out the form or not. As for whether people cared, that’s just evident by history. No one worried about it until much later. No one cared at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/170 "2016-06-11T11:18:31Z")
Elizabeth Warren registers [pocahontas.com](http://pocahontas.com) domain, redirects it to her campaign website. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/171 "2016-06-11T13:23:21Z")
\*\*Does Trump calling Warren Pocahontas, make it OK to call him Adolph Drumpf? \*\* In a word, no. Warren was the one claiming to be part Indian, so she made herself fair game. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/172 "2016-06-11T19:41:10Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Elizabeth Warren registers [pocahontas.com](http://pocahontas.com) domain, redirects it to her campaign website. I love her. I love that Clinton and Warren are delivering a master class in how to handle Donald Trump - something the Republicans couldn’t figure out in a whole year. They could have blown up his campaign months ago - but instead they rolled him. Are you paying attention, Little Marco? ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/173 "2016-06-12T15:05:05Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > She’s a brilliant, influential, highly-educated, female, well-respected Democrat. And he’s [still calling her Pocahontas](http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/11/politics/donald-trump-calls-elizabeth-warren-racist/index.html). When name calling is the best you’ve got, you don’t have much. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/174 "2016-06-12T16:03:45Z")
I would caution the gentle reader from jumping to the common conclusion that a smattering of Cherokee blood inherently produces genetically superior people. This has not been proven. Yet. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/175 "2016-06-12T18:15:01Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > \*\*Does Trump calling Warren Pocahontas, make it OK to call him Adolph Drumpf? > \*\* > > In a word, no. Warren was the one claiming to be part Indian, so she made herself fair game. If you read up thread she is 1/32 Cherokee. She marked the “white” box on her college and job applications and only mentioned the Native American background when asked later. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/176 "2016-06-12T18:45:27Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Scots/Irish and Cherokee ought to have its own check box. Just sayin’, is all. Jesus fuck, yeah! I mean, Jackson, Trail of Tears, blah blah blah, but that evacuation was so porous that A) Andy missed a bunch, and B) there seems to be a trail of Cherokee and Choctaw descendants all along it. It’s a wonder anybody made it to Oklahoma. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/177 "2016-06-12T19:53:52Z")
When I get to Hell, gonna sit down next to wherever they are roasting Andy Jackson and read him statistics about how widely the Cherokee line is fused with the American bloodstream. You know, brighten his day. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/178 "2016-06-12T20:23:29Z")
I feel my connection to Trump is personal enough that I can refer to him as Mein Drumpf. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/179 "2016-06-12T21:10:17Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > If you read up thread she is 1/32 Cherokee. She marked the “white” box on her college and job applications and only mentioned the Native American background when asked later. If you read upthread you’ll find she has absolutely no NA heritage. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008/180 "2016-06-12T22:22:11Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > If you read up thread she is 1/32 Cherokee. She marked the “white” box on her college and job applications and only mentioned the Native American background when asked later. > [@mistymage](#): > > If you read upthread you’ll find she has absolutely no NA heritage. If you read upthread, you’ll find that it’s unclear whether she has NA ancestry or not. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-calling-warren-pocahontas-make-it-ok-to-call-him-adolph-drumpf/756008.md?page=8)