# Does Trump Think That He Will Be Welcomed In The UK?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 30, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151 "2017-11-30T16:00:05Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/21 "2017-11-30T19:16:03Z")

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> [@up\_the\_junction](#):
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> I suspect it’s a pretty big deal for a PM to withdraw an invitation to a head of state, even more so if they’re a close ally.
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> Hopefully something can be done and the whole thing gets kicked into the long grass.

i’m hoping it’s withdrawn while he’s in the air. And not told until he tries to land.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/22 "2017-11-30T19:21:50Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> Trump will be well-received by the UK government because [flattery gets you everywhere with him.](http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-asia-red-carpet-china-vietnam-2017-11)He will get the same President+ package that he got in Asia, and as long as somebody can tell him that he’s getting specialer treatment than Obama he’ll be happy.

I wish some world leader had the intestinal fortitude to ‘take him to the woodshed’ – Sit him down in a chair in a bare room and tell him what’s what. ‘Listen, punk. Nobody likes you. Ya got that? _Nobody._ Everyone’s only nice to you because they’re all better people than you are…’

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/23 "2017-11-30T19:26:54Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I predict he comes back and says “What a great welcome! Everybody was flashing me the peace sign!”

Hehehehe. Good one. It took me a moment, but I see what you did there. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/24 "2017-11-30T19:27:37Z")

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Wow. “Democrat collective”? Where are you from, doorhinge?

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/25 "2017-11-30T19:54:26Z")

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> [@puddleglum](#):
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> One of the nice things about the Revolution is that American leaders don’t need to care what the English think of them.

An American Leader who disregards the “special relationship” we have with England and the other commonwealth countries (not to mention, NATO) isn’t qualified to clean up after the Queen’s corgis.

Of course, Donald doesn’t think much of NATO, does he?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/26 "2017-11-30T20:17:15Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> An American Leader who disregards the “special relationship” we have with England and the other commonwealth countries (not to mention, NATO) isn’t qualified to clean up after the Queen’s corgis.  
> …

Well we already knew that about Thump, didn’t we?

Okay, provided May doesn’t rescind the invitation, what will Thump talk about when he’s in the UK? Let me guess… how he beat Crooked Hillary in the popular vote by the biggest margin in history, how he has gotten more done during his first year in office than any president ever, how he is beloved by the American people, and how we beat Britain in the American Revolution (which he has vaguely heard of, although he doesn’t know what [del]decade[/del] century it happened in), so they better watch their step!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/27 "2017-11-30T20:55:58Z")

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> [@bob\_2](#):
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> It may possibly be confirmation bias, but I hardly ever read anything complimentary about him personally or his policies. The only exception seems to be that he handled China less badly than expected.

China handled him.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/28 "2017-11-30T21:01:47Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> how we beat Britain in the American Revolution (which he has vaguely heard of, although he doesn’t know what [del]decade[/del] century it happened in), so they better watch their step!

He lives in a house the British army set on fire in 1814.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/29 "2017-11-30T21:11:46Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Fear of ridicule from whom? You? The lame stream media has been advocating for every rumor that anyone has ever started, if it includes something/anything negative concerning Trump. (Yawn) While it’s been relatively easy to convince the Democrat collective, _…_

Ouch. That really leaves a mark, every time. :rolleyes:

> [@doorhinge](#):
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> …and possibly the foreign press, that all rumors concerning Trump must be true, …

There aren’t any Trump rumors that people are upset about. It’s the things that he says. The things that he attempts to do, but that get slapped down by the courts due to their constitutional indifference and spite. They aren’t rumors.  
But stay tuned to see how the investigation turns out.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/30 "2017-11-30T21:12:22Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> [This guy](https://www.facebook.com/JonathanPieReporter/videos/1399627930160096/) seems to have a great take on it. (You may need a Facebook account to see it) Damn, I love his style!

That guy is gonna bust something.  
I didn’t know that British people even said “fuck”.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/31 "2017-11-30T21:23:48Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> He lives in a house the British army set on fire in 1814.

“You know, we beat you guys in two wars. A lot of people don’t know that. It was called The War of 1812, and more and more people are talking about it. Maybe that means something. I’ll tell you that none of you reporters have been talking about it. But that’s okay. That’s okay.”

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/32 "2017-11-30T21:33:24Z")

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OK, **doorhinge** , can _you_ tell us anything complimentary about him or his policies?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/33 "2017-11-30T21:42:03Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> OK, **doorhinge** , can _you_ tell us anything complimentary about him or his policies?

The Trumpniks on this board NEVER NEVER answer a direct question like that.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/34 "2017-11-30T21:47:21Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> The lame stream media has been advocating for every rumor that anyone has ever started, if it includes something/anything negative concerning Trump.

Oh, yeah? They’ve been awfully quiet about Trump’s birth certificate! :dubious:

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/35 "2017-11-30T22:17:59Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Oh, yeah? They’ve been awfully quiet about Trump’s birth certificate! :dubious:

Yes, is it gold or platinum plated?

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/36 "2017-11-30T22:30:20Z")

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Of course, they shouldn’t take back the invitation. But…

Meet him at the airport with a limousine that has a few dents. The interior is dirty, and the seat has a few bad springs in it. The driver should smoke the entire trip. The publicized route is different from the one they actually take so that they are no spectators on the sidewalks as the limo, belching smoke, goes by.

Put him up at some well-known hotel, but make sure the room is the smallest they have. The bedsheets should be stained. There should be shit marks in the toilet. The water in the bath should get to 25C at the hottest.

Feed him a meal that looks good, but is oversalted or incredibly bland. Everything served to him is lukewarm. (You can give the British people at the dinner normally tasty food so long as it looks identical to what he’s served. Make sure the wine is excellent to make it up to them – he doesn’t drink.) He likes his sweets, so be sure that dessert is a nice wedge of cheese. Make a big deal about how the cheese and in fact the entire meal is composed of local specialties.

Have whatever press conference that is required, but in a room too small to accommodate much press. Space only for one or two of the press in Donnie’s entourage. Press from other countries and the international press will of course be allowed, but see if you can’t encourage them to make the whole visit a nonevent. They can (and should) ask whatever pointed questions they want. If possible, see if they will ostentatiously take video of the British attendees while the Dotard is answering the questions of the American press (which, if he gets to pick them, will be Fox news).

Ideally, the British news shows would place the story about the press conference near the end of the program where the minor stories are usually covered. Show video that features May and then, just as Cheeto Face opens his mouth to speak, have the announcer interrupt, “We have important breaking news. Meghan Markle has just told us that she plans on wearing pink nail polish for the wedding. We have her manicurist here to discuss this exciting news.”

In other words, do the absolute minimum that you can for a head of state, and do that badly. Make him “welcome.”

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/37 "2017-11-30T22:44:08Z")

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That’s real good! Can we add 1 out of tune novice trumpet player mangling Hail To The Chief at the airport as he deplanes?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/38 "2017-11-30T22:44:34Z")

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Nah… they should take back the invitation.

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**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-think-that-he-will-be-welcomed-in-the-uk/803151/39 "2017-11-30T23:28:25Z")

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I am disappointed that the Orange One has only got one supporter; I was hoping for more.

_"I didn’t know that British people even said “fuck”._ - Sad to say it’s become so common that only we old fogeys take any notice. A bunch of young kids walk past my house on the way to and from school every day. The other day, a pretty young girl about nine years old shouted across the street to another girl (with whom she had presumably fallen out) to “Fuck off you silly cunt”. None of the other kids found this in the least bit shocking. Maybe we could get her to present a bunch of flowers - it will be spring so some \*Paperwhite Narcissus might be appropriate.

\*_Paperwhite blossoms exude a pervasive perfume. Some people love it, but roughly a quarter of the population likens it to the smell of manure or urine. The odour is due to indole, a chemical that’s also given off by E. coli. Paperwhites belong to the Tazetta group of narcissus. Tazettas with white cups have the most offensive smell._

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Poor Royal family, they have to smile and shake hands with … him…

> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> The female members may well need to make sure they hang on to his hand. That way they’ll know what it’s doing.

Maybe Melania could have a sort of “pre-visit” where she teaches that brushing-the-hand-away maneuver to the ladies of the Court (and the chambermaids).

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