# Does Ukraine have trained pilots **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion\ **Created:** [May 15, 2022, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-ukraine-have-trained-pilots/964459 "2022-05-15T18:26:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-ukraine-have-trained-pilots/964459/41 "2022-05-16T15:15:01Z")
Not to mention the British Commonwealth Air Training Plan, which trained nearly half of the RAF, RCAF, and other Commonwealth AFs in countries other than Britain. The majority of those trained through the Plan were trained in Canada ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-ukraine-have-trained-pilots/964459/42 "2022-05-16T17:07:38Z")
We also teach them advanced military stuff- a friend works at the Air War College in Montgomery, and he’s made references to foreign students before, mostly in reference to social gatherings and beer. But they teach them the full advanced air warfare officer courses- strategy, history, etc… right alongside the USAF officers. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-ukraine-have-trained-pilots/964459/43 "2022-05-16T20:13:02Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > For me it still always kinda throws me, like, so I have to watch an entire video now to know what his/her point is? No, you’re not the only one. Why should I have to sit through a video to get to the point? This is further complicated for me in that more and more I am having to rely on closed-captioning when the sound quality is less than ideal, and if there isn’t CC then it can be just too frustrating. Must be nice to be young with unabused hearing - ah, I remember those days… Would be nice if people would at least give the time stamps for the most relevant points. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-ukraine-have-trained-pilots/964459/44 "2022-05-18T15:15:28Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > Am I terribly out of place suggesting that, IMHO, a post consisting only of a YouTube link is missing a certain Olde-Tyme SDMB meatiness? Indeed, lacking a trace even of side-saladness? What is wrong with a video? Someone may link a technical article. Are you meant to wade through 300 pages of techno-babble? In the end it is a data point. You can read the articles or watch the videos or not. Up to you. I do not see anything inherently bad or worse about videos. Like articles they can be bad or good…informative and interesting or dull and worthless. /hijack ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-ukraine-have-trained-pilots/964459/45 "2022-05-18T15:20:52Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > You can read the articles or watch the videos or not. Some people don’t like to watch videos. I prefer not to, especially if it’s like an hour long and the point being referenced is in the last 30 seconds. I think that if someone posts a video, they should post the relevant text so that people can decide whether to watch the video. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-ukraine-have-trained-pilots/964459/46 "2022-05-18T15:23:52Z")
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-ukraine-have-trained-pilots/964459/47 "2022-05-18T15:27:38Z")
**Modding** : Hi all, no more about the Videos or comments about them in this thread. It is considered best habits to include some description with a video link. We do not encourage just video posts, but it isn’t mandatory either. Complaints about such really don’t belong in thread and comments on said complaints really really don’t belong in said thread. etc. * * * You are all welcomed to start a thread on this subject in ATMB and link back to here. This thread will reopen shortly ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-ukraine-have-trained-pilots/964459/48 "2022-05-18T15:39:29Z")
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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-ukraine-have-trained-pilots/964459/49 "2022-06-05T22:21:01Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Seriously, though… The video mentions the sending of spare parts. It says that complete aircraft are just parts that haven’t been disassembled. What if the aircraft (once, as the video points out, they are downgraded) are disassembled for ground transport and delivered as spare parts – spare parts not seeming to rile up Putin too much – and the Ukrainians use the ‘spare parts’ to ‘make complete aircraft’? Followup on the 20 Mig-29s worth of ‘spare parts’ allegedly from former Moldovan aircraft bought by the US that were sent to Ukraine in April; reportedly a dozen or so Su-25 Frogfoot strike aircraft were broken down into parts, [shipped to Ukraine and reassembled](https://www.novinite.com/articles/215264/Ukraine+received+a+Dozen+Soviet+Su-25s+in+Spare+Parts+%E2%80%93+Did+Bulgaria+send+them%3F) from an Eastern European country, possibly Bulgaria. > **Ukraine** has received **Su-25** attack **aircraft** from the West in the form of spare parts, according to the American publication Foreign Policy, which is one of the two media with exclusive access to the so-called International Donor Coordination Center. In it, 110 soldiers are helping to track arms shipments around the clock. For their transportation, the planes were pre-dismantled in Eastern Europe. > > " _The European Command Field Group in Eastern Europe has helped dismantle Soviet **Su-25** planes and Mi-17 helicopters so that they can be sent to **Ukraine** _ ," the paper said. > > The number of " _delivered_ _in bulk_ ” **aircraft** is not specified in the information of Foreign Policy but a little later the specialized Polish portal for defense and armaments Defence24.pl wrote, citing Nexta, that the machines are 14 and are from " _one of the Eastern European partners_ ". The planes reached **Ukraine** by land. ---
**Author:** ![md-2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@md-2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md-2000)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-ukraine-have-trained-pilots/964459/50 "2022-06-05T22:37:43Z")
Recall that most of the action now is in the east and south-east. Lviv apparently only gets the odd missile, sometimes aimed at a tractor barn. While it’s still a war zone, I imagine a flight of fighter planes could make it into Lviv for future prep without issues - most of the time. Plus, with the necessary AA or SAM equipment ready for any attempts at intercept. From what little I’ve seen the Ukrainians and the Russians are still both flying, but both very wary of enemy fighters, of shoulder-launch missiles too near the ground, and fancier missiles further up. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-ukraine-have-trained-pilots/964459/51 "2022-06-05T23:51:47Z")
> [@md-2000](#): > > sometimes aimed at a tractor barn. Or maybe just not aimed at all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-ukraine-have-trained-pilots/964459.md?page=2)