# Dogs, Sex, and Morality

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 8, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645 "2011-09-08T19:03:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/21 "2011-09-08T22:02:35Z")

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Heh, I wonder if a dog could catch human sexually-transmitted diseases or crabs. If so, that’s another reason to be pissed at comming home to find someone having sex with one’s dog. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/22 "2011-09-08T22:12:22Z")

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I’m guessing she was ugly. Sounds like something that would happen in this dog-eat-dog kinda world.

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**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/23 "2011-09-08T22:45:37Z")

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I kinda don’t buy the story because it so closely (minus the peanut butter) resembles such a common urban legend/meme.

I don’t see eye to eye with Dan Savage on much, but I can’t deny he’s heard plenty of out-therestories, and here’s his seemingly spot-on take on these sort of things:

> **[September 26, 2007](https://www.avclub.com/september-26-2007-1798212384)**
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> Who the hell wears swim caps anymore? I haven't seen a swim cap in years. That question in your column last week from the swim-cap fetishist getting off on his visits to public pools was bullshit. I would think you, of all people, could see through...

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/24 "2011-09-08T23:22:24Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> What they were doing \*\*\*was \*\*\*actual sex.

I bet the dog would disagree.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/25 "2011-09-09T00:28:14Z")

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It doesn’t matter if you are pitching or catching, it’s still bestiality.

I am firmly in the ‘pulling your leg’ camp because the following questions popped into my mind when I read the OP:

1. They left her alone in the flat? After only a couple of weeks?

2. She stripped down with the dog? After only a couple of weeks?

3. She didn’t think to lock the door??

I live in Southern California, the porn capital of the world. I’ve heard about, and believe, a lot of sick stuff. This one still has an air about it…

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**Author:** ![conurepete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e57/32.png) [@conurepete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/conurepete)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/26 "2011-09-09T00:40:14Z")

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He is pulling your leg. I have heard this story too many times, there is No Way so many women so many years apart keep doing this with the door unlocked. The moral transgression here is “don’t repeat urban legends to your buddy and tell him it’s for reals”

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/27 "2011-09-09T01:48:13Z")

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I think the most important, unanswered question is this: what breed of dog was it?

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/28 "2011-09-09T01:57:15Z")

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Beastiality is clearly condemned in the Holy Scriptures. In addition it is non-consensual-if rape is the worst type of personal assault than beastiality is the worst form of animal cruelty.,

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/29 "2011-09-09T02:01:57Z")

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Fortunately, the dog in the story seemed pretty consensual. I guess another unanswered question is how old was the dog? Younger than 16-18, the woman is guilty of statuatory rape… but then, do you measure this in dog years? 😕

Really, this needs to be put to the courts. I say arrest them both!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/30 "2011-09-09T02:05:50Z")

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I honestly thought the thread title was “_Drugs_, Sex, and Morality” and was prepared for some libertarian discussion.

This is just… icky.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Ayebaw](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darth_ayebaw/32/9870_2.png) [@Darth\_Ayebaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Ayebaw)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/31 "2011-09-09T02:39:16Z")

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I’ve always wondered why it’s okay to kill animals, after raising them in horrid conditions amounting to torture and mutilation, but should one get his rocks off with a human that is terribly wrong. In the situation in the OP I’d say it’s wrong, but only because the owner has the right to decide what goes on with his animal.

Should the woman wish to engage her own dog, assuming the dog is willing, what exactly is wrong? Why do we need consent for sex but not murder? Disgusting beyond all imagination, yes, but actually wrong in some sense? Where’s the harm, is what I’m getting at.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/32 "2011-09-09T03:02:32Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> I think the most important, unanswered question is this: what breed of dog was it?

lap dog.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/33 "2011-09-09T03:20:37Z")

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:golf clap:

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/34 "2011-09-09T03:20:58Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> First of all I have a hard time believing this story. Are you sure your friend isn’t pulling your leg? To do it at someone else’s house, with someone else’s dog, and to not leave when asked, having to be thrown out, just boggles the mind.

Could have been worse. The dog might have got into the Spanish Fly, and ended up dead on the gearshift.

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/35 "2011-09-09T03:22:33Z")

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It might not have been cunnilingus that the OP’s friend saw. The dog might just as well be licking her anus. I’ve had to elevate the laundry hamper to avoid having one of my dogs chew the ass of my underpants creating holes.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/36 "2011-09-09T07:02:06Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Geez, and I had trouble teaching the dog to fetch.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

You should have tried teaching your dog to felch. Much easier.

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/37 "2011-09-09T07:05:32Z")

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> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#):
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> It might not have been cunnilingus that the OP’s friend saw. The dog might just as well be licking her anus.

Whew, now I’m relieved. I had feared there might be sex involved, but since it’s the anus…

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/38 "2011-09-09T08:56:37Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> You should have tried teaching your dog to felch. Much easier.

5.4 ; 5.2 ; 5.4 ; 5.4 ; 4.9 ; 5.6 and the Russian judge gives it a rare 6.0

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**Author:** ![The\_Niply\_Elder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e8cbc/32.png) [@The\_Niply\_Elder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Niply_Elder)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2011, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/39 "2011-09-10T04:46:32Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> I’m guessing she was ugly. Sounds like something that would happen in this dog-eat-dog kinda world.

Best post in thread.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2011, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-sex-and-morality/595645/40 "2011-09-10T06:05:08Z")

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Did she use peanut butter?

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