# Dogs wearing clothing...just don't do it!

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**Created:** [November 13, 2009, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-wearing-clothing-just-dont-do-it/517417 "2009-11-13T05:29:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-wearing-clothing-just-dont-do-it/517417/81 "2009-11-15T03:11:43Z")

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> [@BMada](#):
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> “dogs wearing clothes for cosmetic purposes = stupid”
> 
> I’ll continue to type this out over and over as long as you type your retarded general statement dogs wearing clothing is stupid. I’ll be stubborn too.

Fine, I’ll be a gentleman:

It is not stupid for dogs to wear clothing that is practical.

Let me qualify that by saying, though, that the above sentence is merely a _tatemae_ and that my _honne_ [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honne\_and\_tatemae](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honne_and_tatemae) is still that dogs wearing clothing is stupid. Worried about canine hypothermia? Buy a dog suited the climate you live in or take it out for brief, energetic walks that include alot of running.

Or be stupid and buy a sweater for your pet.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-wearing-clothing-just-dont-do-it/517417/82 "2009-11-15T03:24:53Z")

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> [@BMada](#):
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> italian greyhound [Italian Greyhound - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Greyhound)

Is there something wrong with my monitor or is the first dog in that link purple?

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**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-wearing-clothing-just-dont-do-it/517417/83 "2009-11-15T05:14:56Z")

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> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> Fine, I’ll be a gentleman:
> 
> It is not stupid for dogs to wear clothing that is practical.
> 
> Let me qualify that by saying, though, that the above sentence is merely a _tatemae_ and that my _honne_ [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honne\_and\_tatemae](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honne_and_tatemae) is still that dogs wearing clothing is stupid. Worried about canine hypothermia? Buy a dog suited the climate you live in or take it out for brief, energetic walks that include alot of running.
> 
> Or be stupid and buy a sweater for your pet.

I will beat the dead horse further when you add a bullshit explanation of “_tatemae_ and _honne_” as a footnote.

here we go

> **[Endal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endal)**
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> Endal (13 December 1995 – 13 March 2009) was a male Labrador Retriever in Britain whose abilities as a service dog and as an ambassador for service dog charitable work received worldwide news media coverage.
> Among other distinctions, Endal was described as "the most decorated dog in the world" (including "Dog of the Millennium" and the PDSA Gold Medal for Animal Gallantry and Devotion to Duty, the highest award available to an animal) and possibly the most famous assistance dog in the UK. He w...

holy shit that dog’s got credentials and WTF it’s wearing something, OMFG CALL 9-1-1, wait, they’ll probably send this dog to your location to set you straight. Is it a functional vest? You dont need a vest to make people know it’s a working dog. HOLY SHIT TAKE THAT VEST OFF IT’S STUPID!!!

> **[Smoky](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoky_%28dog%29)**
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> Smoky or Smokey may refer to:

[http://www.olive-drab.com/od\_wardogs\_famous\_smoky.php](http://www.olive-drab.com/od_wardogs_famous_smoky.php)

shit that dog’s got a fucking parachute on. HOLY SHIT it’s flying. Shit, the 2nd link shows it wearing clothes. FUCK!!! it was a military dog, a dog they found and became a mascot only to aid in the war effort in tangible ways other than morale boosting. SHIT TAKE THOSE CLOTHES OFF THAT FUCKING MANGY MUTT!!!

> **[Sergeant Stubby](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergeant_Stubby)**
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> Sergeant Stubby (1916 – March 16, 1926) was a dog who was the unofficial mascot of the 102nd Infantry Regiment and was assigned to the 26th (Yankee) Division in World War I and travelled with his division to France to fight alongside the French. He served for 18 months and participated in 100 battles and four offensives on the Western Front. He saved his regiment from surprise mustard gas attacks, found and comforted the wounded, and allegedly once attacked and held a German soldier by the seat...

wow, look at all those medals it got. damn you dog stop wearing fucking clothes with medals all over it. It would be stupid if we didn’t acknowledge this dog’s effort/bravery towards the effort but no we can’t have that. YOU CAN’T BE RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR BRAVERY YOU ARE JUST A DOG!!!TAKE THAT SHIT OFF OMFG IT’S STUPID!!!

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**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-wearing-clothing-just-dont-do-it/517417/84 "2009-11-15T05:20:57Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Is there something wrong with my monitor or is the first dog in that link purple?

the color looks purple but it’s called blue. They come in different colors like the mixed white and grey. I believe Minpins can come in the blue variety but aren’t part of the breed standard. And no, it wasn’t dyed for that color, it’s a natural color.

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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-wearing-clothing-just-dont-do-it/517417/85 "2009-11-15T22:47:03Z")

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> [@BMada](#):
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> I will beat the dead horse further when you add a bullshit explanation of “_tatemae_ and _honne_” as a footnote.
> 
> here we go
> 
> [Endal - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endal)
> 
> holy shit that dog’s got credentials and WTF it’s wearing something, OMFG CALL 9-1-1, wait, they’ll probably send this dog to your location to set you straight. Is it a functional vest? You dont need a vest to make people know it’s a working dog. HOLY SHIT TAKE THAT VEST OFF IT’S STUPID!!!
> 
> [Smoky - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoky_%28dog%29)
> 
> [http://www.olive-drab.com/od\_wardogs\_famous\_smoky.php](http://www.olive-drab.com/od_wardogs_famous_smoky.php)
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> shit that dog’s got a fucking parachute on. HOLY SHIT it’s flying. Shit, the 2nd link shows it wearing clothes. FUCK!!! it was a military dog, a dog they found and became a mascot only to aid in the war effort in tangible ways other than morale boosting. SHIT TAKE THOSE CLOTHES OFF THAT FUCKING MANGY MUTT!!!
> 
> [Sergeant Stubby - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergeant_Stubby)
> 
> wow, look at all those medals it got. damn you dog stop wearing fucking clothes with medals all over it. It would be stupid if we didn’t acknowledge this dog’s effort/bravery towards the effort but no we can’t have that. YOU CAN’T BE RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR BRAVERY YOU ARE JUST A DOG!!!TAKE THAT SHIT OFF OMFG IT’S STUPID!!!

This is the reason why I stubbornly wont give you your last inch: because your stupid sarcasm annoys the hell out of me.

It’s not that you can’t be recognized for your bravery if you’re a dog, but that you shouldn’t…on the grounds that dogs don’t understand bravery, therefore don’t have any of it, and only do what they’ve been trained to do.

I’ve had my “rant about the world” already. I’m content. Dogs wearing clothing is bullshit stupid.

You can go on in this thread if you want, I don’t care.

DOGS WEARING CLOTHING IS STUPID!!!

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-wearing-clothing-just-dont-do-it/517417/86 "2009-11-15T22:53:51Z")

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> [@Tamryne](#):
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> …You mean I can’t dress my corgi like a menorah this Channukah?

The only person who gets to dress her Corgi like a Menorah is the Queen. And she doesn’t because she’s Church of England and it wouldn’t be _proper_.

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**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-wearing-clothing-just-dont-do-it/517417/87 "2009-11-16T03:42:04Z")

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> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> This is the reason why I stubbornly wont give you your last inch: because your stupid sarcasm annoys the hell out of me.
> 
> It’s not that you can’t be recognized for your bravery if you’re a dog, but that you shouldn’t…on the grounds that dogs don’t understand bravery, therefore don’t have any of it, and only do what they’ve been trained to do.
> 
> I’ve had my “rant about the world” already. I’m content. Dogs wearing clothing is bullshit stupid.
> 
> You can go on in this thread if you want, I don’t care.
> 
> DOGS WEARING CLOTHING IS STUPID!!!

My stupid sarcasm may be annoying but you yourself are annoying as hell. You act like you are being “gentleman” in post #81 but it’s pretty much the same fucking veiled insult. Like seriously what the hell would you expect me to do, roll over and say all is nice when you pretty much fucking insulted me in a “backhanded compliment” kind of way.

Dogs that wear clothes are not stupid, kidneyfailure is stupid. just change your name to brainfailure and I’ll change mine to Bmadmore.

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**Author:** ![AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-wearing-clothing-just-dont-do-it/517417/88 "2009-11-16T05:16:31Z")

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> [@](#):
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> secondly, people who dress their doggies up in their favourite football team colours are the stupidest of the lot.

yes!!! Agree 100%!

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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-wearing-clothing-just-dont-do-it/517417/89 "2009-11-16T06:14:28Z")

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_My stupid sarcasm may be annoying but you yourself are annoying as hell_

I guess we cancel each other out…

\*but it’s pretty much the same fucking veiled insult \*

You brought it on yourself. You were the first one to use inappropriate language and ad hominems, I was being cordial, you flipped out. Look in the mirror if you want someone to blame. PS- we’re not in the Pit anymore.

\*Like seriously what the hell would you expect me to do, roll over and say all is nice when you pretty much fucking insulted me in a “backhanded compliment” kind of way \*

Again, you threw the first punch. Should I not have responded in kind? Also, I didn’t insult you in post 81 (81, right?). All I did was say what you wanted me to say with a note tacked on at the end explaining that that wasn’t how I really felt. I think dogs wearing clothing is stupid, I wont change that opinion just because you don’t like it or disagree.

Dogs wearing clothing is stupid.

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**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-wearing-clothing-just-dont-do-it/517417/90 "2009-11-16T06:24:22Z")

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> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> _My stupid sarcasm may be annoying but you yourself are annoying as hell_
> 
> I guess we cancel each other out…
> 
> \*but it’s pretty much the same fucking veiled insult \*
> 
> You brought it on yourself. You were the first one to use inappropriate language and ad hominems, I was being cordial, you flipped out. Look in the mirror if you want someone to blame. PS- we’re not in the Pit anymore.
> 
> \*Like seriously what the hell would you expect me to do, roll over and say all is nice when you pretty much fucking insulted me in a “backhanded compliment” kind of way \*
> 
> Again, you threw the first punch. Should I not have responded in kind? Also, I didn’t insult you in post 81 (81, right?). All I did was say what you wanted me to say with a note tacked on at the end explaining that that wasn’t how I really felt. I think dogs wearing clothing is stupid, I wont change that opinion just because you don’t like it or disagree.
> 
> Dogs wearing clothing is stupid.

you threw the “first punch” moron. look at post 19 and the snark level from that. And better yet you started the whole damned thread. Have your fucking retarded opinion, just makes you all that more fucking retarded. Who the fuck cares if it’s not in the Pit anymore, have the Mods lock this shit so they can end your pathetic attempt to reiterate your stupidity by saying dumb shit like dogs shouldn’t wear clothes. Continue to make yourself look like a retard and me as the hapless fuck that continues to get in your shit. please reply, I beg of you.

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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-wearing-clothing-just-dont-do-it/517417/91 "2009-11-16T06:31:38Z")

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\*you started the whole damned thread \*

You’re right, I did. I had my “rant about the world,” in this case dogs wearing clothing, and I’m happy I did. I don’t regret starting this thread. Dogs wearing clothing is a stupid phenomenon. I stand by that.

_Have your fucking retarded opinion_

Thanks for your permission. I’d have my retarded opinion either way, but it’s nice to know you’ll allow me to do so.

_just makes you all that more fucking retarded_

BFD about what you think.

\*Continue to make yourself look like a retard \*

Ok, I will…

_and me as the hapless fuck that continues to get in your shit_

You’re playing that part rather well, I must say. Maybe not “gets in [my] shit,” but more like “flips out for no reason.”

_please reply, I beg of you_

Your wish is granted!

BTW, you were the one who made it personal, bud. And I quote:

“seriously are you that fucking stupid…GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL”

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**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-wearing-clothing-just-dont-do-it/517417/92 "2009-11-16T06:41:26Z")

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> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> \*you started the whole damned thread \*
> 
> You’re right, I did. I had my “rant about the world,” in this case dogs wearing clothing, and I’m happy I did. I don’t regret starting this thread. Dogs wearing clothing is a stupid phenomenon. I stand by that.
> 
> _Have your fucking retarded opinion_
> 
> Thanks for your permission. I’d have my retarded opinion either way, but it’s nice to know you’ll allow me to do so.
> 
> _just makes you all that more fucking retarded_
> 
> BFD about what you think.
> 
> \*Continue to make yourself look like a retard \*
> 
> Ok, I will…
> 
> _and me as the hapless fuck that continues to get in your shit_
> 
> You’re playing that part rather well, I must say. Maybe not “gets in [my] shit,” but more like “flips out for no reason.”
> 
> _please reply, I beg of you_
> 
> Your wish is granted!
> 
> BTW, you were the one who made it personal, bud. And I quote:
> 
> “seriously are you that fucking stupid…GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL”

read post 19 carefully, you pretty much call me a fucking retard in your veiled insult kinda way and you insinuate that my dog’s clothes were for me to act like an effeminate dog owner. seriously, read it and tell me how I’m supposed to read that post without any kind of veiled insult to my keeping care of my dog.

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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-wearing-clothing-just-dont-do-it/517417/93 "2009-11-16T06:56:14Z")

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> [@BMada](#):
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> read post 19 carefully, you pretty much call me a fucking retard in your veiled insult kinda way and you insinuate that my dog’s clothes were for me to act like an effeminate dog owner. seriously, read it and tell me how I’m supposed to read that post without any kind of veiled insult to my keeping care of my dog.

Seeing as how I’m the one who wrote the post in question, I should know that it wasn’t meant to insult you at all, but to point out what I felt (and do feel) were valid points. I’ll deconstruct said quote part by part if you’d like:

_Alright, I’ll be serious here for a second:_

Meaning that most of this thread was meant in jest, which I’ve pointed out many times. You certainly ruined that, though. Kudos!

_Keep her safe from what???_

Valid question, isn’t it? Wasn’t meant to be snide or snarky, just curious about why you thought your dog would just drop dead from canine hypothermia if you took it outside for even a 30-minute walk.

\*Are you taking her out, soaking wet, in subzero weather every single night for upwards of an hour or two? \*

Meaning that if that were the case I’d understand why you’d be so worried about your dog freezing to death. Assuming that you’re NOT doing that, though, I’m sure your dog would be fine even as a shorthair and even after an extended walk. The cite above that someone posted for “canine hypothermia” even said that dogs experiencing “mild to moderate” CH invariably make full recoveries. I’m no vet, but I assume that taking your dog out even in Chicago winters would give it mild CH at most, but most likely not even that. Therefore, I conclude that the chances of a dog needing to wear clothing is most likely nothing. Continue to dress your dog up, though, if you’d like. I’ll continue to think it’s a stupid idea. Live and let live, huh?

\*I mean, come on, your dog might shiver a little, but take her out to do her business and then bring her back in to your warm house and she’ll be fine \*

Makes sense, doesn’t it?

_Shit, I’ve had shorthaired dogs of my own who never wore sweaters during their winter walks and everything was fine. How come yours is supposedly weaker than mine, huh??_

I’d like this question answered

\*I’m pretty sure that most of these dogs wearing sweaters only do so because their owners dress them up due to the “cuteness factor.” \*

Ok, I see the potential for misunderstanding here, but in no way was this comment directed at you personally (unlike your habit of calling me “dense,” “retarded,” and the like). So, you needn’t take offense to it.

Anyway, happy to shed some light on a post you misunderstood!

Oh, and dogs wearing clothing is a stupid phenomenon.

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**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-wearing-clothing-just-dont-do-it/517417/94 "2009-11-16T07:12:04Z")

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> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> Seeing as how I’m the one who wrote the post in question, I should know that it wasn’t meant to insult you at all, but to point out what I felt (and do feel) were valid points. I’ll deconstruct said quote part by part if you’d like:
> 
> _Alright, I’ll be serious here for a second:_
> 
> Meaning that most of this thread was meant in jest, which I’ve pointed out many times. You certainly ruined that, though. Kudos!
> 
> _Keep her safe from what???_
> 
> Valid question, isn’t it? Wasn’t meant to be snide or snarky, just curious about why you thought your dog would just drop dead from canine hypothermia if you took it outside for even a 30-minute walk.
> 
> \*Are you taking her out, soaking wet, in subzero weather every single night for upwards of an hour or two? \*
> 
> Meaning that if that were the case I’d understand why you’d be so worried about your dog freezing to death. Assuming that you’re NOT doing that, though, I’m sure your dog would be fine even as a shorthair and even after an extended walk. The cite above that someone posted for “canine hypothermia” even said that dogs experiencing “mild to moderate” CH invariably make full recoveries. I’m no vet, but I assume that taking your dog out even in Chicago winters would give it mild CH at most, but most likely not even that. Therefore, I conclude that the chances of a dog needing to wear clothing is most likely nothing. Continue to dress your dog up, though, if you’d like. I’ll continue to think it’s a stupid idea. Live and let live, huh?
> 
> \*I mean, come on, your dog might shiver a little, but take her out to do her business and then bring her back in to your warm house and she’ll be fine \*
> 
> Makes sense, doesn’t it?
> 
> _Shit, I’ve had shorthaired dogs of my own who never wore sweaters during their winter walks and everything was fine. How come yours is supposedly weaker than mine, huh??_
> 
> I’d like this question answered
> 
> \*I’m pretty sure that most of these dogs wearing sweaters only do so because their owners dress them up due to the “cuteness factor.” \*
> 
> Ok, I see the potential for misunderstanding here, but in no way was this comment directed at you personally (unlike your habit of calling me “dense,” “retarded,” and the like). So, you needn’t take offense to it.
> 
> Anyway, happy to shed some light on a post you misunderstood!
> 
> Oh, and dogs wearing clothing is a stupid phenomenon.

If my dog wanted to head home that’s what we’d do, why the fuck do you care if my dog wears a functional coat? You may be all right with your dog shivering a little bit, but I didn’t want my dog to be hindered for a fun walk by being cold to the point she would head home for the sole reason for being cold. do you understand that? I know for a fact my dog coulda handle the cold better as she aged and got fatter, but when she was a pup she was a twig, she actually looked like an Italian greyhound in stature. Did you ever see an Italian greyhound before? Seriously, even if it’s not frigid, when it’s a brisk cool day they shiver like it’s -40C. Are that fucking dense not to understand that seeing my dog shiver isn’t something I would want to inflict on my dog even if my dog could handle it? Is it that I cared more about my dog than you do yours? perhaps, but unlikely. They are pets for that reason, we care about them.

You don’t see a problem with that drenching my dog comment at all? It’s pure snark, like I’m some sort of fucking retard that takes my dog out at the most inopportune time as to give it exercise after a bath. You veiled insults are evident yet you choose to pass them off as if they’re questions of merit and fact. How that question isn’t an insult to you is beyond me.

Dogs wearing clothes isnt’ a stupid phenomenon. Dogs wearing clothes to look cute is. Seriously if you can’t see that I agree with you at that point and you can’t fucking agree to that and not put some sort of lame fucking disclaimer you are a fucking retard.

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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogs-wearing-clothing-just-dont-do-it/517417/95 "2009-11-16T07:39:56Z")

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_why the fuck do you care if my dog wears a functional coat?_

I don’t, hence post #67 wherein I said that I didn’t “give two shits” what your dog wore. This thread isn’t about you…it doesn’t say “bmada dressing his/her dog in clothing is stupid,” just my feeling about the phenomenon itself…which I think is stupid. I think I’ve said more than a few times in here that you can do whatever you want with your dog. OTOH, I’ll say what I want about dogs wearing clothing.

_Is it that I cared more about my dog than you do yours?_

No, it’s just that I’d see my dog shiver a bit, we’d run, he’d stop shivering, we’d go home after a while, and he’d be no worse for the wear as far as I could tell so I didn’t worry about it and didn’t think he’d need a coat.

_You don’t see a problem with that drenching my dog comment at all?_

No, I don’t. It was an exaggerated comment to show how much it would take for cold weather to really do your dog any lasting harm and to point out that if you weren’t doing something like that (which I’m sure you weren’t, as you’re obviously quite passionate about your dog) you wouldn’t have much to worry about, therefore a sweater wouldn’t be needed.

_It’s pure snark_

Think what you’d like, but I’m the one who wrote it and I know it wasn’t meant that way.

_like I’m some sort of fucking retard that takes my dog out at the most inopportune time as to give it exercise after a bath_

I apologize if you misunderstood. That wasn’t the intention at all.

_How that question isn’t an insult to you is beyond me_

Explained above.

_Seriously if you can’t see that I agree with you at that point and you can’t fucking agree to that and not put some sort of lame fucking disclaimer you are a fucking retard_

I understand that we both agree that dogs wearing cosmetic clothing is stupid and I acknowledge that. I don’t feel, however, that dogs “need” to wear clothing in cold weather. I just don’t. I’ve seen no evidence to lead me to believe so, so I made a decision about my opinion on the matter. Until I see something that convinces me otherwise I’ll continue to think that dogs wearing clothing (including in cold weather) is unnecessary. You calling me “retard,” however, isn’t going to change my mind, sorry.

As for the disclaimer, I said:

It is not stupid for dogs to wear clothing that is practical

However, as I feel that there really is no great need for dogs to wear clothing (even the so-called “practical” kind) I tacked on a disclaimer at the end clarifying my position. I said it to appease you but I didn’t really mean it and I wanted to make sure everyone understood that. How come you can’t figure that out?

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> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> The cite above that someone posted for “canine hypothermia” even said that dogs experiencing “mild to moderate” CH invariably make full recoveries.

So… because the dog will live through the illness, we shouldn’t bother preventing it in the first place? Brilliant.

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> [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](#):
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> So… because the dog will live through the illness, we shouldn’t bother preventing it in the first place? Brilliant.

No, genius. There are other ways to prevent it than buying your pet a sweater.

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> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> No, genius. There are other ways to prevent it than buying your pet a sweater.

I’m game, let’s hear them. But don’t tell me to have a different breed of dog than I already do, please - I haven’t quite gotten my transmutation skills to that level yet.

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Take your dog for a jog. Circulation and increased heart rate raise body temperature. Also, it’s good for you, too

Take your dog for a few short, energetic walks a day instead of one long one.

Take your dog outside to take care of business, play with it inside your warm house for exercise.

Three simple ones that have always worked for me…

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> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> Three simple ones that have always worked for me…

Ahh yes, the good old “if it works for me, it must work for everyone” mentality.

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