# Dogwoods, Amen at the Corner, and Green Jackets: It's Masters Time!

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**Created:** [April 7, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196 "2009-04-07T00:20:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/61 "2009-04-12T17:01:36Z")

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Paul Lawrie was 10 stokes down to the imfamous Jean Van de Velde in the 1999 Open.He won in a four hole playoff.

Lawrie started the final round 10 strokes out of the lead. More than an hour after he had posted his 4-under 67, he stood on the practice green as Van de Velde marched to the 18th tee with a three-stroke lead.

Then, he heard the moans.

Needing only a double bogey on the final hole to become the first Frenchman in 92 years to win the British Open, Van de Velde was lucky to make triple bogey and get into a playoff

[http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/golf/1999/british\_open/news/1999/07/18/british\_sunday/](http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/golf/1999/british_open/news/1999/07/18/british_sunday/)

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/62 "2009-04-12T17:08:08Z")

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Van de Velde made light of his 1999 Open collapse in a humorous Never Compromise infomercial in which he replayed Carnoustie’s 18th hole in the dead of winter with only a putter in an attempt to best the seven strokes that cost him the championship. He succeeded on his third attempt

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/63 "2009-04-12T17:13:23Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Early scores are not low. That is not promising.

That’s the best scenario for a comeback. Someone puts up a 65 while the leaders shoot 73’s.

> [@cmosdes](#):
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> What is the farthest position back anyone has been after 54 holes to win the Masters? Or any major? Not just score, but position. You could theoretically be 1 stroke back and be in 10th place.

8 strokes. Jack Burke in 1956. He actually fell to nine back during his round and came all the way back. Gary Player was eight back in 1978 and won. In 1996 Nick Faldo came from 6 back of Greg Norman and won, but he was in second place and playing with Norman.

There were at least six guys ahead of Player in 1978 when he put up a final round 64.

P.S. Burke won $6,000 for winning in 56. Ben Hogan tied for 8th and won $976.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/64 "2009-04-12T17:26:25Z")

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It aint outa reach for anybody.In 2007 Goose qualified for the weekend on the cut line,10 strokes out ,held the lead for a short time on late sunday(16th,Ithink) before Zach Johnson took over.

Maybe 14,I am hazy on the details…I think it was on 15 when goose decided to lay up that cost him.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/65 "2009-04-12T17:30:42Z")

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Speaking of Gooses,Tigers,Sharks,Ducks and Walruses,do any of the critter nicknamed golfers use animal-themed club covers like Tiger does?

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/66 "2009-04-12T18:05:13Z")

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Steve Flesch is -3 through 4 holes, so going low is indeed possible.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/67 "2009-04-12T18:08:08Z")

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I sure would like Padraig to win(or Lyle…that would be cool)…but I’m pulling for Cabrera.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/68 "2009-04-12T18:30:20Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> Steve Flesch is -3 through 4 holes, so going low is indeed possible.

Knocking a second shot into the hole from a fairway is a hard act to follow.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/69 "2009-04-12T18:53:03Z")

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Lefty coming on …

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/70 "2009-04-12T18:53:08Z")

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Phils on Phire.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/71 "2009-04-12T19:00:53Z")

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OMG whatta shot from Phil.

I don’t even like the guy.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/72 "2009-04-12T19:05:57Z")

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He could make this fun. Only 2 back and the leaders are in a par frame of mind. To suddenly get unexpected pressure will add a little kick.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/73 "2009-04-12T19:08:09Z")

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Just you and me Gonz…what are yer thoughts?

Cabrera looks steady…look out phor phuryk.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/74 "2009-04-12T19:22:07Z")

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Gusty winds at Augusta on Sunday. These are the conditions that make the Masters so great, but it can come down to a lucky break. If a gust of wind comes up with your ball in the air on Amen Corner, a perfectly struck shot can end up in the water.

OK, Tiger just eagled eight. I guess I know what I’m doing for the next three hours.

Another birdie for Phil. I am not a fan, but I have to give him credit - he is tearing up the front nine.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/75 "2009-04-12T19:27:45Z")

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I like Nick Price,but he sure likes to talk about his green jackets.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/76 "2009-04-12T19:32:44Z")

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> [@MadTheSwine](#):
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> I like Nick Price,but he sure likes to talk about his green jackets.

Nick Price??

Do you mean Nick Faldo?

Furyk, Woods, Mickelson, could make this VERY interesting Sunday afternoon. As they say, it doesn’t REALLY start until the back nine on Sunday.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/77 "2009-04-12T19:36:12Z")

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Whoops…yes

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/78 "2009-04-12T19:45:18Z")

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It started at two today.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/79 "2009-04-12T19:45:53Z")

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> [@MadTheSwine](#):
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> Whoops…yes

There you go, you will be happy to see that infomercia… excuse me, Masters history moment. 😃

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/80 "2009-04-12T20:02:31Z")

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> [@MadTheSwine](#):
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> Speaking of Gooses,Tigers,Sharks,Ducks and Walruses,do any of the critter nicknamed golfers use animal-themed club covers like Tiger does?

Craig Stadler has had a Walrus Headcover for years. Not sure if he still does.

I think Norman had a shark cover.

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