# Dogwoods, Amen at the Corner, and Green Jackets: It's Masters Time!

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 7, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196 "2009-04-07T00:20:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/161 "2009-04-12T23:14:45Z")

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Yeah, but Perry has a trophy daughter, too. Now I wanna know who thought that up??

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/162 "2009-04-12T23:14:52Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> Analogizing Tiger to the Lions is enough to drop a jaw in confusion. :eek:😛
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> I mean the Lions would love to hope to be half of what Tiger is.

Mebbe he should try out for QB

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/163 "2009-04-12T23:15:45Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I’ll be happy to comfort Campbell’s trophy wife for him.

Wonder if Tigers wife is needing comfort?

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/164 "2009-04-12T23:16:24Z")

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> [@Zetetic](#):
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> Apparently it’s just holes 18 & 10 for the play-off (repeating as long as needed)

Confirmed. ☹  
I hate that idea, though I understand why they do it. So many of the Masters playoffs have ended at the 11th with such dramatic impact.

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/165 "2009-04-12T23:16:28Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> When you become a pro golfer do they assign you a pretty blonde wife?

I think the way it works is you collect a few good purses and a bunch of pretty blondes beat a path to your door - you can then pick and choose.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/166 "2009-04-12T23:17:06Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> Yeah, but Perry has a trophy daughter, too. Now I wanna know who thought that up??

As i said in post 150.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/167 "2009-04-12T23:20:01Z")

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> [@Xema](#):
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> I think the way it works is you collect a few good purses and a bunch of pretty blondes beat a path to your door - you can then pick and choose.

Purse snatching leads to trophy wives??? Whoda thunk???😕😉

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/168 "2009-04-12T23:21:57Z")

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Angel Cabrera about to prove the first one wasn’t a fluke.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/169 "2009-04-12T23:22:02Z")

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Cabrera knows how to pick em eh? 2 PGA titles,both majors.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/170 "2009-04-12T23:29:31Z")

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> [@VanLandry](#):
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> Hmmm.. I wonder what the vegas odds are on Tiger winning the grand slam this year. It’s still gotta be high, like 50 to 1, but it just might be worth putting $20 on.

Sorry bout that,better money spent on tiger not winning a major.

> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> My darkhorse pick this year is Andres Romero.

Right country anyhow.

> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> Angel Cabrera is -3 through 7, an impressive start!

Not a bad finish either.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/171 "2009-04-12T23:31:36Z")

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Phil was -9. He missed 2 short flat putts and smacked one in the water. Those 4 strokes would have him at -13. It was there .

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/172 "2009-04-12T23:32:00Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> When you become a pro golfer do they assign you a pretty blonde wife?

A pro golf tournament, especially in and around the clubhouse, is like a walking fashion shoot. The women who show up there are absolutely amazing.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/173 "2009-04-12T23:33:27Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> My darkhorse pick this year is Andres Romero.

> [@MadTheSwine](#):
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> Right country anyhow.

That was a typo.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/174 "2009-04-12T23:33:56Z")

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Is this a first? Has any prior winner needed an interpreter?

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/175 "2009-04-12T23:38:40Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> That was a typo.

🙂

> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> Is this a first? Has any prior winner needed an interpreter?

Only when interviewed by the Japanese.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/176 "2009-04-12T23:44:04Z")

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Roberto de Vicenzo?  
Oh, wait, sorry… 😃

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**Author:** ![cmosdes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cmosdes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmosdes)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/177 "2009-04-13T01:58:44Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> That’s the best scenario for a comeback. Someone puts up a 65 while the leaders shoot 73’s.
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> 8 strokes. Jack Burke in 1956. He actually fell to nine back during his round and came all the way back. Gary Player was eight back in 1978 and won. In 1996 Nick Faldo came from 6 back of Greg Norman and won, but he was in second place and playing with Norman.
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> There were at least six guys ahead of Player in 1978 when he put up a final round 64.
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> P.S. Burke won $6,000 for winning in 56. Ben Hogan tied for 8th and won $976.

I was really looking for position and not strokes. I’m curious how many other players you can realistically hope to overcome to win on the final day. If it had been Tiger tied for second and 6 strokes back I wouldn’t have considered that as big a comeback as being 6 strokes back and in 10th place.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/178 "2009-04-13T03:14:53Z")

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> [@MadTheSwine](#):
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> Paul Lawrie was 10 stokes down to the imfamous Jean Van de Velde in the 1999 Open.He won in a four hole playoff.

> [@cmosdes](#):
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> I was really looking for position and not strokes. I’m curious how many other players you can realistically hope to overcome to win on the final day. If it had been Tiger tied for second and 6 strokes back I wouldn’t have considered that as big a comeback as being 6 strokes back and in 10th place.

Lawrie was in a tie at 14th with Patrik Sjoland Hal Sutton and Jesper Parnevik going into the 4th round. He overcame Jean Van de Velde(of course),Justin Leonard(in a playoff with Jean also)Craig Parry,David Frost,Andrew Coltart,TIGER WOODS,ANGEL CABRERA,GREG NORMAN,COLIN MONTGOMERIE,Frank Nobilo,BERNHARD LANGER,Len Matiace and Miguel Martin for the win.

That a big enough comeback?

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/179 "2009-04-13T13:34:09Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> Roberto de Vicenzo?

Oh what a stupid you are! 😉

Was very pleased to see Tiger ht that tree - even tho he was out of it by then.  
Even tho Perry gave it away on the last 2, was glad to see the leaders not slip entirely back to the big 2.

You folks echo what the TV and papers said - that the story was a couple of guys who ended up finishing several strokes back. While I agree that was A story, I was more interested in following who actually was in the running to win this thing. And despite the manufactured soap opera, Tiger was never in it. Flirted late then immediately backed away.

Was pretty impressive that Phil kept it as close - getting within a shot or 2 on a couple of of occasions, both before and after dunking one.

Hell, if they were gonna jizz all over Tiger/Lefty, then at least show us all their shots. I was astounded on one hole on the back nine when they came back from commercial to show Tiger’s drive, and they never showed Lefty’s drive (he had honors).

I was quite happy the way it turned out. Would have been very happy to see any of the top 3 win it. Perry winning it would have been a nice story. It might have lit a fire under Campbell. But it is nice to see another player multiple major club. And Cabrero is certainly a refreshing change from the blown-dried Stepford pros.

Bet Perry wishes he coulda channelled a little Shingo on 17-18.

And **MadSwine** - I’m not sure why you think I lost anything? 😕

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dogwoods-amen-at-the-corner-and-green-jackets-its-masters-time/492196/180 "2009-04-13T13:38:23Z")

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Just goofing with ya.

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