# DOJ/Jack Smith Investigation into Trump and Election Interference, January 6th Insurrection (Re-Indicted August 27, 2024) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 23, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455 "2022-11-23T20:14:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 107
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2124 "2024-01-30T17:28:25Z")
“Jury of one’s peers” is an ancient and time-honored legal principle. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2125 "2024-01-30T18:11:07Z")
That may have come off more biting than I intended it. I was tying to be tongue-in-cheek. Also yay my congressperson is under investigation! (Missouri politics are a shit show.) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2126 "2024-01-30T18:12:53Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > At least you didn’t mishear it as “zoo jury” and worry that Cori Bush was going to have to testify in front of a bunch of exotic animals. Trump keeps telling us it’s a kangaroo court. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2127 "2024-01-30T18:47:30Z")
And another twit gets arrested. I wonder why he had folding chairs on his back? > **[Jan. 6 rioter who 'blind-side tackled' Capitol officer to be sentenced](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/jan-6-rioter-blind-side-tackled-capitol-officer-sentenced-rcna136358)** > > After getting "amped up" at the Stop the Steal rally on Jan. 6, Donald Trump fan Ralph Celentano assaulted law enforcement officers during the Capitol attack. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2128 "2024-01-30T19:03:15Z")
I like the use of the word “fan” there. There’s a certain dismissiveness to it that appeals to me. These dopes think they’re revolutionaries fighting to save America. Painting them as the Trump equivalent of Taylor’s “swifties” is funny. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2129 "2024-01-30T20:27:41Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > I like the use of the word “fan” there. Good eye. I like that, too. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2130 "2024-01-30T20:35:58Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > I like the use of the word “fan” there. There’s a certain dismissiveness to it that appeals to me. These dopes think they’re revolutionaries fighting to save America. Painting them as the Trump equivalent of Taylor’s “swifties” is funny. So, Trumpies? (Sounds like some weird type of Breakfast cereal…) Press on. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2131 "2024-01-30T20:39:26Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Nope, looks like it was a grand jury subpoena to Democratic Representative Cori Bush of New Jersey for alleged misuse of federal funds. But I thought that the corrupt Biden DOJ only ever investigated Republicans? > [@fachverwirrt](#): > > As one of Cori Bush’s constituents, I am reasonably certain she does not represent New Jersey, or else I am really confused about where I live. Given the choice between taking your word for it and contradicting you highly insightful and intelligent Ms Aspenglow, I think I going to have to ask your for your drivers license and voter registration. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2132 "2024-01-30T20:41:11Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > So, Trumpies? > [@ABC News shit the bed by publishing fake news on Friday. They know it too.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-news-shit-the-bed-by-publishing-fake-news-on-friday-they-know-it-too/803598/72): > > I like “Trumpeteers”, really fits the childishness. They wear MAGA hats instead of mouse ears.   ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2133 "2024-01-30T21:15:38Z")
I think laughing uproareously at them would be much more effective than raging incandescently. These roosters may parade as armour plated fanatics, but they are pure blancmange under that exoskeleton. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2134 "2024-01-31T03:38:21Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > > [@fachverwirrt](#): > > > > As one of Cori Bush’s constituents, I am reasonably certain she does not represent New Jersey, or else I am really confused about where I live. > > Given the choice between taking your word for it and contradicting you highly insightful and intelligent Ms Aspenglow, I think I going to have to ask your for your drivers license and voter registration. Yeah! How do we know you’re just not in denial about living in New Jersey? But then again, Missouri seems like a strange place to fantasize about living in… Ok, I’ll stop. ---
**Author:** ![GESancMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gesancman/32/2923_2.png) [@GESancMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GESancMan)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2135 "2024-01-31T05:49:03Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > So, Trumpies? (Sounds like some weird type of Breakfast cereal…) The original Trumpy: > **[GIF-monic Institute - Trumpy, you can do magic evil things!](https://mst3kgifs.tumblr.com/post/152962173252/hes-got-his-high-beams-on)** > > Trumpy, you can do magic evil things! ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2136 "2024-01-31T14:15:15Z")
For those interested the PBS series Frontline has published a 2.3 hour long episode on the legal case against Trump for the January 6 attacks. I know many here do not like videos but I cannot find a transcript (I did not look very hard). > “Democracy on Trial” traces the road to this unprecedented moment, and examines the implications of the historic criminal case unfolding in the midst of a presidential election year. Drawing on court documents and revelatory interviews with elected officials, former government lawyers, House Select Committee witnesses and former committee staffers, authors and journalists, the documentary reports that the work of the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol attack provided the groundwork for special counsel Jack Smith’s indictment of Trump and may offer insights into how the trial unfolds. You can watch it on the [PBS Frontline website](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/democracy-on-trial/) or on YouTube (below). > **[Democracy on Trial (full documentary) | FRONTLINE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y44fyh4ap7k%2F)** > > FRONTLINE investigates the roots of the federal criminal case against former President Donald Trump stemming from his 2020 election loss.This journalism is m... ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2137 "2024-01-31T16:14:02Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > For those interested the PBS series Frontline has published a 2.3 hour long episode on the legal case against Trump for the January 6 attacks. **I know many here do not like videos but I cannot find a transcript (I did not look very hard)**. The transcript **[may be available here](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/democracy-on-trial/)** in the near future. Right below the video, where you see the header “TOPICS”, you will see a link to “Credits”. Other Frontline videos from prior episodes have a “Transcript” link immediately to the left of the “Credits” link. Check back at the link in this post after a few days or so. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2138 "2024-01-31T18:57:33Z")
I just noticed that Frontline (maker of the video I posted just above) also has the full interviews (I think full interviews) of several prominent figures in the above video. Each YouTube video is 45-90 minutes long. Good stuff if you enjoy deep dives into these events. In no particular order: - [Soumya Dayananda](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGn1mpxXs2E) (senior investigative counsel for the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol) - [Adam Kinzinger](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5KvDldgv70) (U.S. representative from Illinois from 2011 until 2023 and was one of two Republicans to serve on the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack ) - [Rusty Bowers](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-ZaD2JBcAE) (Arizona’s speaker of the House from 2019-23) - [Robert Ray](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olHRz1uLdz0) (a member of President Donald Trump’s legal defense team during the President’s first Senate impeachment trial in 2020) - [Bennie Thompson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYvPQ_AT_a8) (chairman of the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol) ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2139 "2024-02-01T01:55:21Z")
Yes, the Frontline piece is long. It also some of the best reporting on January 6th and what lead up to it that I’ve seen. I don’t see how anyone could watch it and still think Trump is anything other than a criminal. It should be mandatory viewing for anyone wanting to vote. I’m sure the Trumpers won’t watch it and still declare it a far left hit job. Bravo Frontline! ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2140 "2024-02-01T15:04:52Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > > > For those interested the PBS series Frontline has published a 2.3 hour long episode on the legal case against Trump for the January 6 attacks. **I know many here do not like videos but I cannot find a transcript (I did not look very hard)**. > > The transcript **[may be available here](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/democracy-on-trial/)** in the near future. Right below the video, where you see the header “TOPICS”, you will see a link to “Credits”. Other Frontline videos from prior episodes have a “Transcript” link immediately to the left of the “Credits” link. Check back at the link in this post after a few days or so. Yep – the transcript is now up. Here’s a direct link: > **[Democracy on Trial | FRONTLINE](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/democracy-on-trial/transcript/)** > > FRONTLINE investigates the roots of the criminal cases against former President Trump stemming from his 2020 election loss. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2141 "2024-02-01T17:34:53Z")
[As judges mull presidential immunity, Trump reaps the benefits of delay](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/31/trump-trial-immunity-delay-00138688) > [@](#): > > the trial is officially slated to begin on March 4. Chutkan, though, has [strongly suggested](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/18/judge-hints-at-delay-for-trumps-march-trial-date-in-federal-election-case-00136403) she’ll push back that start date to account for each day of delay caused by Trump’s immunity appeal. . . . > > “At this point, it’s uncomfortable how long it’s taken, but I don’t think you can look at it and say it’s, on its face, absurd,” said Seligman, who said judges in the majority would likely wait much longer before trying to cajole or force the release of a ruling while a colleague is still writing. . . . > > Chutkan has acknowledged that as long as the immunity question remains unresolved, Trump is under no obligation to continue preparing for trial. I can say it. The delays are “on its face, absurd.” If I was a witness, I’d say that it all happened years ago - I can no longer remember. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2142 "2024-02-04T10:06:24Z")
I think she’s saying the immunity claim can’t be said to be “on its face, absurd” (even though it can). ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2143 "2024-02-06T15:14:12Z")
It’s about time… > **[Trump does not have presidential immunity in January 6 case, federal appeals...](https://apple.news/AA796zxPpQkWOF4NHxmDGxg)** > > Donald Trump is not immune from prosecution for alleged crimes he committed during his presidency to reverse the 2020 election results, a federal appeals court said Tuesday. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455.md?page=106) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455.md?page=108)