# DOJ/Jack Smith Investigation into Trump and Election Interference, January 6th Insurrection (Re-Indicted August 27, 2024)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
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**Created:** [November 23, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455 "2022-11-23T20:14:01Z")\
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Well, now I have an excuse to to to the liquor store.

Speculation on CNN is that while normal practice is to arrest upon an indictment, in this case, a summons will likely be issued.

Indictment is sealed; government side asked for that.

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/223 "2023-08-01T21:19:54Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> Indictment has happened, no names on it.
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> The frenzy is about to go full out.

How can there not be any names on an indictment? What did they indict, a ham sandwich?

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> That it hasn’t gone public as yet. Waiting on it being posted.

Thanks!

j

ETA - and BTW, @kaylasdad99 , I really did laugh out loud

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> What did they indict, a ham sandwich?

At least you’ve got dinner covered. 😉

ETA: It’s got a name on it. It’s just under seal at the moment.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
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I thinking bag of Cheetos.

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Speculation is (from CNN) that while we know no names right now, we might get some details from Special Counsel within 24 to 48 hours. No guarantees though.

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Couldn’t they have at least said “un-named individual one”?

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What fun would that be? If they did that, they’d give away the game, and no one could wring their hands and wonder if they actually only indicted Rudy Giuliani.

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Indeed. I can’t figure that it would only be one person. Perhaps they want to get the marshals situated.

The things to look for are who the judge is and what are the charges.

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Speculation about whose names(s) are on it. Suggestions so far: Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman. Nobody has mentioned Trump, but I’m sure everybody is thinking that.

Anybody following a source that has any reaction from the Trump side?

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Trump was going on about it being today.

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CNN reporting that Donald Trump HAS BEEN indicted.

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Trump has been informed that he has been indicted, according to CNN.

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> Trump was going on about it being today.

The Big Con noted that there’s a big crossover with compulsive gamblers and con artists. The personality quirk that makes you want to keep trying to push your luck and see how far you can keep your streak going causes issues in most proper career paths but is what you need to keep the lie going in a con job.

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Indicted on 4 counts.

EDIT: Obstruction and something else.

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CNN: Four counts in the indictment, but they went too fast for me to catch and post.

They will be repeated, undoubtedly.

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Obstruction, defraud the us.

Sounds like just him right now.

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Conspiracy to Defraud the US  
Conspiracy to Obstruct an Official Proceeding  
Obstruction of a Proceeding  
Conspiracy Against Rights

Many of these are the same charges the other Jan 6 rioters were charged with (and almost always convicted of).

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> Indeed. I can’t figure that it would only be one person. Perhaps they want to get the marshals situated.

I speculated about this before. I think Smith will keep his first indictment lean and for Trump alone. Time enough to go after the full conspiracy later. But Smith wants to rack up one conviction before the election.

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Lester Holt says it’s Donnie.

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