# DOJ/Jack Smith Investigation into Trump and Election Interference, January 6th Insurrection (Re-Indicted August 27, 2024) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 23, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455 "2022-11-23T20:14:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 136
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2704 "2025-01-07T18:23:02Z")
Doesn’t matter if the Circuit Court of Appeals says it’s okay to publish; Trump’s lawyers will seek a writ of certiorari to the Supreme Court and the clock will run out. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2705 "2025-01-11T23:22:02Z")
Jack Smith resigned his post. (Gift link.) > **[Jack Smith, Who Led Prosecutions of Trump, Resigns](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/11/us/politics/jack-smith-special-counsel-resigns.html?unlocked_article_code=1.oU4.ZChX.76Skyt_utF8I&smid=url-share)** > > Mr. Smith, a special counsel appointed by Attorney General Merrick B. Garland, had signaled that he would step down before Donald J. Trump’s inauguration. > The special counsel departed after his efforts in the courtroom were essentially rendered moot by Mr. Trump’s political victory in November. Under a Justice Department policy prohibiting the pursuit of prosecutions against a sitting president, Mr. Smith was compelled to [drop both of the cases](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/25/us/politics/jack-smith-trump-election-documents-charges.html) he had filed against Mr. Trump in 2023 — one in Florida, accusing him of mishandling a trove of classified documents, and the other in Washington, on charges of plotting to overturn the 2020 election. > > Mr. Smith’s final week was marked by one more legal setback at the hands of Judge Aileen M. Cannon, the Trump-appointed jurist presiding over the Florida documents case: She temporarily blocked public release of his final report until at least Monday. I hope he and his family will be ok. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2706 "2025-01-11T23:25:42Z")
I have a guest room in my house here he and his family are welcome to use. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2707 "2025-01-11T23:28:28Z")
Hell, I’d give him and his family my whole house and move my carcass in with friends, if it would be helpful to him. But unlike you, it wouldn’t, because I still live in the States. That said, he’s a very smart man and I’m sure he has made contingency plans. I just hope they’re enough. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2708 "2025-01-11T23:29:23Z")
I wonder if he could go back to his old job at The Hague. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2709 "2025-01-11T23:30:33Z")
Perhaps Interpol is hiring. Or Scotland Yard. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2710 "2025-01-11T23:35:50Z")
Wherever he goes, I hope it is far enough. I have some serious concerns that it won’t be. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2711 "2025-01-11T23:53:48Z")
There’s no place on earth that is safe for him or his family. Trump has the power and friends to reach anyone. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2712 "2025-01-12T00:59:26Z")
This would be the best move. I’m sure he would be welcomed back. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2713 "2025-01-14T06:23:36Z")
Here is the report > **[Read Jack Smith's final report on Trump's Jan. 6 case](https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/read-trump-jack-smith-jan-6-report-full-text-pdf-rcna187111)** > > The Justice Department released the special counsel's report on his investigation into Trump's interference in the 2020 election. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2714 "2025-01-14T19:21:02Z")
thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2715 "2025-01-15T23:06:59Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Here is the report Download it in the next few days; it may become contraband at noon on January 20th. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2716 "2025-01-15T23:17:35Z")
Good point. Download and mail to everyone you know. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2717 "2025-01-15T23:49:00Z")
Or not email; the pdf copy I downloaded was 27.4 MB. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2718 "2025-01-16T14:51:42Z")
Internet is forever. It won’t disappear. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2719 "2025-01-16T19:50:04Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Or not email; the pdf copy I downloaded was 27.4 MB. Don’t want to derail thread … but using the Chrome browser, Windows 11 on a laptop and having Adobe Acrobat Pro installed: - Open the DocumentCloud icon at lower left of image (the image of pg 1 of the report **[on MSNBC’s site](https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/read-trump-jack-smith-jan-6-report-full-text-pdf-rcna187111)**). - Once you’re viewing the report in DocumentCloud, click “Download File” at upper right - A new browser window should open displaying a PDF of the report. Adobe Acrobat is actually displaying the report via Chrome. From here, you can click on the little Download icon at upper right. - A copy of the file should appear in your laptop’s Downloads folder (unless you specify it to save elsewhere. The resulting file is about 8 MB. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2720 "2025-11-11T02:33:08Z")
Trump has issued Federal pardons for everyone involved in the False Electors scheme, effectively both admitting and pardoning an attempt to illegally reject and subvert the vote of the people. > **[Trump pardons Nevada ‘fake electors’; state cases unaffected, remain pending...](https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/trump-pardons-nevada-fake-electors-state-cases-unaffected-remain-pending)** > > The “full, complete and unconditional pardon” only relates to federal crimes, and none of those pardoned has faced federal charges related to the 2020 election. Nevada’s six fake electors are still facing state-level charges. May they to all burn in hell from the day of their natural deaths, and be scorned by every American for the traitors to their fellow citizens that they are, during their life until that day. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2721 "2025-11-11T02:39:33Z")
It would be great if Federal pardons lead to automatic guilty findings for State charges… Brian ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2722 "2025-11-11T17:32:44Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > It would be great if Federal pardons lead to automatic guilty findings for State charges Can the fact that someone was federally pardoned for a particular act be entered into evidence in a state trial about that act? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/2723 "2025-11-11T18:08:44Z")
> **[Federal pardons in the United States | Limitations](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_pardons_in_the_United_States#Limitations)** > > Federal pardons issued by the president apply only to federal offenses; they do not apply to state or local offenses or to private civil lawsuits. Pardons for state crimes are handled by governors or a state pardon board. > The president's power to grant pardons explicitly does not apply "in cases of impeachment." This means that the president cannot use a pardon to stop an officeholder from being impeached, or to undo the effects of an impeachment and conviction. > In United States v. Wilson (1833... > …a person who is granted a pardon must still disclose any convictions on any form where such information is required… Here’s a 28 page (archived) PDF file called “PARDON INFORMATION AND INSTRUCTIONS” > **[Wayback Machine](https://web.archive.org/web/20250121114247/https://www.justice.gov/pardon/file/898541/dl)** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455.md?page=135) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455.md?page=137)