# DOJ/Jack Smith Investigation into Trump and Election Interference, January 6th Insurrection (Re-Indicted August 27, 2024)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 23, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455 "2022-11-23T20:14:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 39

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/762 "2023-08-05T22:55:04Z")

</div>

> [@ParallelLines](#):
>
> > [@PhillyGuy](#):
> >
> > As has been noted, Trump wants a move to [West Virginia](https://news.yahoo.com/trump-wants-jan-6-trial-130538560.html). I instead suggest [Puerto Rico](https://www.prd.uscourts.gov/), since most jury pool members there would not have voted for or against Trump.
> 
> For that matter, you’re assuming that Trump team would accept that as a choice of venue.

I think that once the defense asks for a change of venue, it is too late to take back the request if the judge transfers to a district the defense thinks even worse than the original. Lawyers here can correct me.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/763 "2023-08-05T22:56:31Z")

</div>

Um.

Liddle’

Would anyone care to float a guess as to what specific job that apostrophe is doing?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/764 "2023-08-05T22:57:24Z")

</div>

Sorry, I was implying that Puerto Rico might have it’s own bias and risk for a Trump defense, not WV. Which is why I later tried to make clear that Trump’s definition of un-biased is in and of itself, incredibly so.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/765 "2023-08-05T23:03:13Z")

</div>

> [@Cervaise](#):
>
> Would anyone care to float a guess as to what specific job that apostrophe is doing?

Loser Donald consistently spells “little” that way. As our resident Trump Whisperer, I have no idea whether he thinks it’s clever or if he thinks that’s how it’s meant to be spelled, as in his constant refrain that the election was “stollen”.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/766 "2023-08-05T23:12:10Z")

</div>

> [@enipla](#):
>
> They’ve been coned by the worst con man that I have ever seen.

The Cone of Shame?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/767 "2023-08-05T23:13:52Z")

</div>

If it’s a rapper name you need the apostrophe… Liddle’Mike is better than Liddle Mike. Just looks cooler.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/768 "2023-08-05T23:18:29Z")

</div>

Two Pence? White Paw? Mother’s Daddy?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/769 "2023-08-05T23:24:47Z")

</div>

Two obvious things wrong with this Twuth:

1. Donnie does not know the word “emboldened.”
2. He never read an article in his life.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/770 "2023-08-05T23:25:58Z")

</div>

If it was one about him, and flattering, and he had a week to spare, he might.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/771 "2023-08-05T23:54:49Z")

</div>

> [@Cervaise](#):
>
> Um.
> 
> Liddle’
> 
> Would anyone care to float a guess as to what specific job that apostrophe is doing?

He’s called someone else “liddle’ So-and-so” on Twitter before. IIRC, the consensus was that he was going for li’l.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/772 "2023-08-06T00:13:03Z")

</div>

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
>
> Um… this is a 22-min video. A few highlights or summary statements would be appreciated. What was the most salient point _to you_?

At least one of the January 6 defendants tried to argue free speech and the judge rejected it. And it doesn’t really matter whether Trump genuinely believed there was election fraud for the charges to stick.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/773 "2023-08-06T00:14:13Z")

</div>

> [@ParallelLines](#):
>
> Puerto Rico might have it’s own bias and risk for a Trump defense

On the other hand, he could try bribing them with tossed paper towels.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/774 "2023-08-06T00:17:12Z")

</div>

> [@DesertDog](#):
>
> If it was one about him, and flattering, and he had a week to spare, he might. -

Not unless there’s a picture of himself.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/775 "2023-08-06T00:26:02Z")

</div>

> [@chappachula](#):
>
> And as others have said above, for most voters, the phrase “ **innocent until proven guilty** ” rings true.

That’s why I hate that phrase when it’s naked. It’s a _presumption of innocence until proven guilty._

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/776 "2023-08-06T00:28:45Z")

</div>

I’m not biased. Not at all. If I see someone commit a crime, and say they are guilty of said crime. That does not make me biased. It makes me an honest juror.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/777 "2023-08-06T00:34:05Z")

</div>

Looks like the judge isn’t going to brook any unnecessary delay, in fact intends to [keep the case moving right along](https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/04/politics/trump-truth-social-smith-evidence-2020/index.html):

> A federal judge on Saturday denied a request from former President Donald Trump’s legal team for a deadline extension over the handling of evidence in the [2020 election subversion case](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj1o9z0vcaAAxUsM1kFHSwID-kQFnoECBMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2Finteractive%2F2023%2F08%2Fpolitics%2Fannotated-text-copy-trump-indictment-dg%2F&usg=AOvVaw1XZnLpyire7wN9a9799NRr&opi=89978449).
> 
> Trump’s lawyers will have to respond by Monday afternoon to the Justice Department’s proposal for a protective order.
> 
> The decision from US District Judge Tanya Chutkan caps a flurry of activity in the case after special counsel Jack Smith’s team on Friday asked Chutkan to quickly set limits on what[Trump](https://www.cnn.com/specials/politics/president-donald-trump-45)’s team can do with the evidence that will be shared with them. Their request pointed to a post by Trump on Truth Social from earlier in the day to argue that the former president has a habit of speaking publicly about the details of the various legal proceedings he’s facing.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/778 "2023-08-06T00:36:32Z")

</div>

I hate to think what the Alka-Setzer and Pepto-Bismal bills for Trump’s lawyers must be.

Every day, they must be dreading the text, “Did you see what our client said/did?”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/779 "2023-08-06T00:38:58Z")

</div>

It certainly would be a bad time for any of them to try to quit smoking. Or drinking.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/780 "2023-08-06T00:45:24Z")

</div>

Maybe opium smoking would work. I hear it calms the nerves.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/781 "2023-08-06T00:48:44Z")

</div>

Too bad they took Quaaludes off the market.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455.md?page=38)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455.md?page=40)
