# DOJ/Jack Smith Investigation into Trump and Election Interference, January 6th Insurrection (Re-Indicted August 27, 2024) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 23, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455 "2022-11-23T20:14:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/802 "2023-08-06T03:46:28Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I understand that Trump’s lawyers must file a response by 5:00 pm Monday. I guess we’ll see if they do so by the deadline. They asked for an extension of that deadline and it was denied. [https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/04/politics/trump-truth-social-smith-evidence-2020/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/04/politics/trump-truth-social-smith-evidence-2020/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/803 "2023-08-06T04:13:36Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Back on track, I cannot see anything good coming from the motion to protect evidence from Trump himself. > > If the motion is granted, Trump will say that he, as the defendant, is not being allowed access to the evidence against him. Only his lawyers are, and they’re being muzzled by not being allowed to share it with him. Very unfair! I think the motion is to prohibit him from posting about or talking about the evidence and to keep his lawyers from giving him copies of things to keep. He will be allowed to see and hear all of the discovery, just not keep personal copies of things to take home and show to Hannity or to post on social media about what has been shared with him. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/804 "2023-08-06T04:21:52Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > He just seems to demand that he cannot, will not, be held liable even if the law says he should be. Well, he’s been getting away with _anything_ he has done as an adult, and possibly before then, so he cannot grasp why he’s he’s in trouble now just because he was President. As I said years ago, I want to see him sitting in his cell contemplating how he could have continued for the rest of his life grifting a few hundred thousand here, a million there and no one could touch him. Then he had to get the bright idea of improving his brand by running for President and fell under scrutiny he’d never known. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/805 "2023-08-06T04:31:32Z")
Oh, no argument DD, I was just trying to make the point to @PhillyGuy that it’s incredibly rare for Trump to actually contest the details of what has happened, if only because he’s normally on the record as to having done everything he’s accused of. Instead, he’ll lie to his believers face, and when confronted with facts demand that it doesn’t matter because everyone is mean to him and he shouldn’t therefore be responsible, and anyway, it shouldn’t be a crime (for him, and him alone) in the first place. And yeah, it’s an attitude that decades of abuse via money and the courts have cultivated to a way of life for him, and served him and the nation poorly once he road a wave of hate and lies into the presidency. The fact that his supporters (political and otherwise) continue to enable him says horrible things about them as well. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/806 "2023-08-06T09:47:08Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > He will be allowed to see and hear all of the discovery, just not keep personal copies of things to take home and show to Hannity or to post on social media about what has been shared with him. Or take into the bathroom to copy. Who keeps a copier in their bathroom? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/807 "2023-08-06T13:25:19Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > It makes you a witness, not eligible to serve as a juror. Try to find someone that is not a witness to Trumps crimes. We have all seen and heard what he did. Well 99% of us have. Probably more like 99.9% And I suspect much of the footage of J6 will be used in the courtroom. Or will that not be allowed? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/808 "2023-08-06T13:28:32Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > To deny that an insurrection occurred is just that - denial. Yup. And we all saw it live. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/809 "2023-08-06T13:30:09Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > I think that it would be a good use of funds to build a prison specifically for housing this particular prisoner. It could later serve as his presidential library. Of course, transcripts of all of his court cases would be an excellent exhibit in that library. With videos of him using a golf cart in the exercise yard. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/810 "2023-08-06T13:39:33Z")
I have to wonder how different things would be if Trump had actually walked with (ok, that’s unlikely) or been driven to join the crowd at the Capitol. That’s what he wanted to do, wasn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/811 "2023-08-06T14:08:51Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Try to find someone that is not a witness to Trumps crimes. We are all witnesses to Trump’s misdeeds and misbehavior. But I’d say a tiny minority of us can detail precisely which federal laws he’s run afoul of. As a juror, it’s not your job to decide whether he’s a horrific asshole. The job is to decide whether he violated the specific laws the prosecutor claims he violated. A juror who goes in convinced that they know the specific laws he violated should be dismissed. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/812 "2023-08-06T14:26:27Z")
Charm/obfuscation offensive is full swing. DJT lawyer, John Lauro, will be appearing on all the Sunday news shows. Link to crappy screen grab [https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q\_70,fl\_lossy,dpr\_3,h\_100,w\_65,c\_scale/v200/5e76a8dfef397af87ddb9292aa1b00b7](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_70,fl_lossy,dpr_3,h_100,w_65,c_scale/v200/5e76a8dfef397af87ddb9292aa1b00b7) Your bingo card should have all of the following: Unprecedented Witch Hunt Freedom of speech Witch hunt Whataboutisms (multiple - laptop, Biden, Hunter, Clinton, Obama, etc…) Fraud Witch Hunt Bias Change of venue Witch Hunt Personal attack ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/813 "2023-08-06T14:29:01Z")
Maybe he’ll confess some more. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/814 "2023-08-06T14:32:48Z")
While his lawyer is on TV, Trump is twuthing up a storm. I hope one of the interviewers pulls up the new twuths during the live interview and asks his lawyers for his opinion. Here’s one of many. [[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/R81gF3B.png?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/7KgSCxm) Does Trump really think if he works really hard to prejudice the jury pool against him that they’ll have to move the trial? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/815 "2023-08-06T14:42:08Z")
That’s exactly what he thinks. And maybe it’s not such a bad strategy? ---
**Author:** ![Palo\_Verde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/816 "2023-08-06T14:48:28Z")
“Former President Donald Trump said he will be asking for recusal of the judge on the elections case “on very powerful grounds,” according to a post on his Truth Social media platform on Sunday.” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/817 "2023-08-06T15:02:40Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Does Trump really think if he works really hard to prejudice the jury pool against him that they’ll have to move the trial? Didn’t the judge order him not to do that? Isn’t that contempt of court? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/818 "2023-08-06T15:13:28Z")
I’m looking forward to the argument “the defendant can’t get a fair trial because of publicity”, when the defendant is doing all the publicity. Desertdog, I am constantly reminded of an article that quoted a person who told trump, that running for president was not a good idea for him. His life would not stand up to the scrutiny. His life was great now, just leave it. Should he go down that route, he would end up broke and or in jail. Love rhombus, perhaps Nancy pelosi would have punched him in the nose. Should the secret service has been momentarily rendered senseless, and took him up there… whoa Nelly that would have been exponentially worse. There would have been more deaths. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/819 "2023-08-06T15:15:18Z")
That is what I am wondering, why did the judge mention the jury before one was sat? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/820 "2023-08-06T15:17:56Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > I’m looking forward to the argument “the defendant can’t get a fair trial because of publicity”, when the defendant is doing all the publicity. Indeed. “YOU ALL SUCK! Judge, I can’t get a trial with these people, they hate me because I told them they all suck!” That can’t possibly be a viable courtroom strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/821 "2023-08-06T15:21:49Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > Should the secret service has been momentarily rendered senseless, and took him up there… whoa Nelly that would have been exponentially worse. There would have been more deaths. He would have been like the dog that caught the car. I can’t imagine what he would have done once he got there. But probably something profoundly stupid and dangerous. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455.md?page=42)