# DOJ/Jack Smith Investigation into Trump and Election Interference, January 6th Insurrection (Re-Indicted August 27, 2024) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 23, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455 "2022-11-23T20:14:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 54
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1062 "2023-08-10T18:48:46Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > But the schedule @JohnT shared has jury selection starting Dec. 11, with the trial starting Jan. 2. Are you saying that will all be pushed back? I think it’s a “split-the-baby” offer of a trial date by Smith’s team. It’s obviously a terrible choice, starting jury selection just before the holidays. Not seriously meant, in my opinion, except to telegraph to the defense that the prosecution is ready to go and will start just as soon as the judge sets a trial schedule. The judge is likely to assent to objections by the defense that the holidays are a bad time to start jury selection. In all seriousness, she will probably agree to a trial schedule that starts in maybe mid-February for Trump’s team to review discovery. There will also be as many pretrial motions made by the defense as they possibly can think of (delay tactics). If possible, they’ll be engineered to go up on appeal. I do think May 1st is kind of a drop-dead date for commencement of jury selection. I don’t think either Smith’s team or the judge will want to cut it that close, though. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1063 "2023-08-10T19:07:21Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I do think May 1st is kind of a drop-dead date for commencement of jury selection. Aaaaaaaaaagh. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1064 "2023-08-10T19:08:13Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I don’t think either Smith’s team or the judge will want to cut it that close, though. If they do, we can all start shouting **“MAY DAY!”** in a panic. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1065 "2023-08-10T19:11:58Z")
N/M - misread. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1066 "2023-08-10T19:24:17Z")
[1:23-cr-00257 Doc 23 - DocumentCloud](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23904909-123-cr-00257-doc-23) here we go! ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1067 "2023-08-10T19:25:43Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > Nice Christmas present. I’m calling it now: If any actual court proceedings of any type happen within a month of Christmas, before or after, Trump will claim this is yet another battle in the War on Christmas. “Failing DOJ crazy-Anti-Trumpers won’t even let a man (celebrate Christmas/Enjoy his Christmas presents) with his family in peace! They DEMAND I show up for their Election HOAX WHICH TRAIL!” ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1068 "2023-08-10T19:32:54Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > That timing seems fair. I wonder if the judge will go along. I’m sure Trump’s team will cry and wail. I’m [reading a book](https://www.graphic.com.gh/features/opinion/book-review-anansis-gold-tracks-the-con-man-behind-the-stories-of-ghanas-lost-gold.html) now about a populist con man (sound familiar?) who was tried while running for president of Ghana in 1979. The defense not only sought delays before the trial, but also during trial by saying that one of the seven defense attorneys was ill/indisposed. Does that work in the U.S.? He was convicted and disallowed from continuing to run. And he soon got out of prison after the Jerry Rawlings coup. Although a pessimist, I think we will at least avoid that last part of history repeating. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1069 "2023-08-10T19:36:04Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > but also during trial by saying that one of the seven defense attorneys was ill/indisposed. Does that work in the U.S.? It could. For a day or two. I can’t imagine the judge allow it to cause any significant delay. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1070 "2023-08-10T19:54:01Z")
My birthday is a few weeks into April. I’m good with that. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1071 "2023-08-10T19:57:12Z")
I will wish for you the happiest birthday you can imagine. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1072 "2023-08-10T20:07:36Z")
Got the reference Akaj. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1073 "2023-08-10T20:13:52Z")
Really? I didn’t know I was making one! It was just my genuine thought upon hearing this trial might not start for another 9-10 months. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1074 "2023-08-10T20:14:20Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Got the reference Akaj. I didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1075 "2023-08-10T20:24:54Z")
if things go as outlined in document 23. start on jan 2 run 4-6 weeks, depending on the verdict, republicans have a chance to pick someone other than trump for the nominee. hopefully this will stick close to the dates the prosecution suggests. an interesting point that was made “on the beat” was that trump thinking he could out game the system announced so early that he forced this timeline. trump announces early, smith is called in, and within 7 months charges start flying. if he had waited until june of this year, the doj common rule of not interfering with an election would have kicked in. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1076 "2023-08-10T20:47:43Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > the doj common rule of not interfering with an election would have kicked in Didn’t Comey essentially abolish that? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1077 "2023-08-10T20:49:24Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > Didn’t Comey essentially abolish that? No he absolutely did not abolish it. He just didn’t follow it. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1078 "2023-08-10T20:50:59Z")
Moderating: > [@Akaj](#): > > Didn’t Comey essentially abolish that? > [@Atamasama](#): > > No he absolutely did not abolish it. I’m heading this hijack off at the pass. Let’s please have this discussion elsewhere, or go back and review its endless debate in other threads. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1079 "2023-08-10T20:59:42Z")
Got it, sorry and thanks for the reminder. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1080 "2023-08-10T21:10:51Z")
It’s an easy sidetrack to engage in. Thanks for your kind understanding. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1081 "2023-08-10T22:49:20Z")
I beg your indulgence for a quick point. The doj can investigate during the election “zone” they do not issue indictments for most crimes by persons in elections during the zone. The beat had some video of a very baby faced jack smith tonight. The videos showed a very honest, upright man. Something with which trump has no experience. The one video of him in The Hague… shows how he is using that experience on these prosecutions. I’ll keep a look out for the video. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455.md?page=53) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455.md?page=55)