# DOJ/Jack Smith Investigation into Trump and Election Interference, January 6th Insurrection (Re-Indicted August 27, 2024) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 23, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455 "2022-11-23T20:14:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1142 "2023-08-12T01:33:44Z")
This one … Idunno … rings vaguely familiar: > **[The Trap of Giuliani’s “Perjury Trap” Argument](https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/trap-giulianis-perjury-trap-argument)** > > Trump’s television lawyer has long said that the special counsel is trying to catch the president in a lie if he sits for an interview. That’s false. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1143 "2023-08-12T23:01:37Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > They will claim that he is the United States. He is not under anyone, so he is above the law. _L’État, c’est moi_ indeed. Of course we all know how that turned out a couple generations later. Keep those tumbrel wheels greased and ready, boys. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1144 "2023-08-12T23:32:29Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > You could list whatever you please, I suppose. Though, technically, I suppose the occupation is “politician.” “Used Furniture Dealer.” ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2023, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1145 "2023-08-13T12:17:16Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Keep those tumbrel wheels greased and ready, boys. The creaking of the tumbrel carts’ wheels on the way to the Guillotine during the French Revolution added ghostly character to the proceedings. We should carry on that tradition. Leave them ungreased. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2023, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1146 "2023-08-13T13:06:41Z")
[https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/13/politics/coffee-county-georgia-voting-system-breach-trump/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/13/politics/coffee-county-georgia-voting-system-breach-trump/index.html) > While Trump’s January 2021 call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and effort to put forward fake slates of electors have long been considered key pillars of Willis’ criminal probe, the voting system breach in Coffee County quietly emerged as an area of focus for investigators roughly one year ago. Since then, new evidence has slowly been uncovered about the role of Trump’s attorneys, the operatives they hired and how the breach, as well as others like it in other key states, factored into broader plans for overturning the election. > > Together, the text messages and other court documents show how Trump lawyers and a group of hired operatives sought to access Coffee County’s voting systems in the days before January 6, 2021, as the former president’s allies continued a desperate hunt for any evidence of widespread fraud they could use to delay certification of Joe Biden’s electoral victory. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1147 "2023-08-13T23:40:24Z")
It took longer than I thought, Trump is “Truthing” about Chutkan but he’s attempting to be sly about it. Instead of posting something directly himself he’s re-posting what others are writing about her. Her quote about “the fact that he’s running a political campaign has to the orderly administration of justice” is proof that she’s deliberately interfering with the election. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2023, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1148 "2023-08-13T23:47:31Z")
> [@Turek](#): > > While Trump’s January 2021 call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and effort to put forward fake slates of electors have long been considered key pillars of Willis’ criminal probe, the voting system breach in Coffee County quietly emerged as an area of focus for investigators roughly one year ago. Since then, new evidence has slowly been uncovered about the role of Trump’s attorneys, the operatives they hired and how the breach, as well as others like it in other key states, factored into broader plans for overturning the election. There have been rumours that she’s bringing charges under Georgia’s RICO Act. This type of information likely supports that possibility. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1149 "2023-08-14T01:42:15Z")
> **[Trump's 'Co-Conspirators' Are Already Starting to Turn on Each Other](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-co-conspirators-already-starting-000743609.html/)** > > Donald Trump's allies are looking to shift blame for the 2020 election off themselves and onto other members of the former president's team. > “It is the ‘please don’t put me in jail, put that other guy in jail’ strategy that was sure to come up at some point or another,” says one attorney working in Trump’s legal orbit. Giuliani 's blaming Sindey Powell, Kenneth Chesebro, ‘the attorney accused of being an architect of the Trump team’s bogus-electors scheme’, is downplaying his role, and Giuliani associate Bernie Kerik is pointing at Powell. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1150 "2023-08-14T01:48:10Z")
Gonna need a bigger bus. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1151 "2023-08-14T01:51:03Z")
Sounds like Chesebro might be planning on throwing The Donald before The Donald can get to him. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1152 "2023-08-14T02:02:06Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Gonna need a bigger bus. - [![](https://www.mercedes-benz-bus.com/content/dam/mbo/markets/common/brand/news/2020/giant-city-buses-on-swedens-roads-23-capa-city-l-for-the-gothenburg-area/images/teaser/teaser-giant-city-buses-on-swedens-roads-01.jpg) ](https://www.mercedes-benz-bus.com/content/dam/mbo/markets/common/brand/news/2020/giant-city-buses-on-swedens-roads-23-capa-city-l-for-the-gothenburg-area/images/teaser/teaser-giant-city-buses-on-swedens-roads-01.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1153 "2023-08-14T02:56:33Z")
And Evel Knievel to drive it. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1154 "2023-08-14T03:15:10Z")
No, no, no! You don’t want the bus to jump _over_ them! _Not wishing harm on anyone, of course. Playful hyperbole!_ ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1155 "2023-08-14T03:42:46Z")
Piker. [![](https://scvhistory.com/gif/lw3397_large.jpg) ](https://scvhistory.com/gif/lw3397_large.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1156 "2023-08-14T03:51:57Z")
This reminda me of the end of _The Italian Job_ (1969), and the song [_The Self-Preservation Society_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfWR0PeEnTM&t=215s) ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1157 "2023-08-14T05:20:37Z")
Who took that picture and how did they set it up? Was that done deliberately? ---
**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1158 "2023-08-14T05:27:35Z")
It’s from a movie called [_The Big Bus_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Bus) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1159 "2023-08-14T05:38:19Z")
There were other pix that showed the bus better but I went for the one where it is teetering over a cliff – appropriate for Trump & Co. I felt. That dark object projecting out the side is a pickup truck, to give a sense of scale. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1160 "2023-08-14T05:51:09Z")
And on the roof are the Flags of All Nations, which helped slow down the bus. It’s a hilarious parody of 1970s star-studded disaster pictures. Worth looking for, if you can find it nowadays. I agree that it is an appropriate photo for Trump & Co., under the circumstances. It seems to me that if even one of them moves a few feet from where they are now inside their bus, figuratively speaking of course, everything becomes unbalanced, and the whole mess falls over the cliff. Good selection of a photo to illustrate, @DesertDog . ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1161 "2023-08-14T10:44:17Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > It’s a hilarious parody of 1970s star-studded disaster pictures. Worth looking for, if you can find it nowadays. Yeah, kind of pre-_Airplane!_ Who put the coyote on backwards? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455.md?page=57) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455.md?page=59)