# DOJ/Jack Smith Investigation into Trump and Election Interference, January 6th Insurrection (Re-Indicted August 27, 2024)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 23, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455 "2022-11-23T20:14:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
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One of the things about terrorists … one fearsome thing about the technological Singularity … one thing to be hyper-vigilant about vis-a-vis Trumpism and today’s’ GOP is …

They’re watching. They’re learning. They’re organized. They’re planning.

I started a **[separate thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/project-2025-a-rw-blueprint-for-autocracy/993262)** on it, but everybody should understand how and why [**Project 2025**](https://www.project2025.org/about/about-project-2025/) is _such_ a threat.

These nuisance issues, like Judicial Decisions that deny a President Civil _and_ Criminal Immunity when they step _way_ outside the line … are … today’s [**Turbulent Priest**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_no_one_rid_me_of_this_turbulent_priest%3F)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1845 "2023-12-05T16:26:19Z")

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Mike Johnson says that future J6 video releases will have the faces blurred out to prevent “retaliatory” DOJ arrests:

> <https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1732069208404730041?t=I30AVYeRwO1LtwCb9K5igw&s=19>

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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In high school I stole a cassette tape from a record store in the mall, and law enforcement retaliated against me, too. Marched me right through the mall in handcuffs.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1847 "2023-12-05T17:30:52Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Mike Johnson says that future J6 video releases will have the faces blurred out to prevent “retaliatory” DOJ arrests:

Trump says “I’m going to weaponize the DOJ against anyone that doesn’t like me” The GOP says “We are going to protect criminals that tried to overthrow the government”.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1848 "2023-12-05T17:58:52Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Mike Johnson says that future J6 video releases will have the faces blurred out to prevent “retaliatory” DOJ arrests:

Doesn’t the DOJ already have access to those videos in their raw unfiltered form?

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1849 "2023-12-05T18:03:19Z")

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There you go again. Trying to deprive deserving GQP leaders of their gasbag right to blather to the cultists. .

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1850 "2023-12-05T18:19:18Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> > [@JohnT](#):
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> > Mike Johnson says that future J6 video releases will have the faces blurred out to prevent “retaliatory” DOJ arrests:
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> Doesn’t the DOJ already have access to those videos in their raw unfiltered form?

Yes, but more publicity might generate tips by people who recognize the subjects.

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1851 "2023-12-05T18:19:55Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> “Biden decides, in his own mind, just as Trump, that current Republican leadership in the house and senate, Trump, and many of the SCOTUS are traitors to the American people. He then walks up to each in turn and as supreme executive, shoots them in the head. As he did this as president, on his sole authority, this is totally okay, and he’s immune to prosecution, exactly as you said, no?”

I believe current Republican ideology classifies that as “core political speech” and is therefore protected under the First Amendment.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-re-indicted-august-27-2024/975455/1852 "2023-12-05T18:21:05Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> Doesn’t the DOJ already have access to those videos in their raw unfiltered form?

They do, but one of the most successful ways that the insurrectionists are being identified is through a casual group of internet folks called the Sedition Hunters. By depriving the Sedition Hunters of access to these previously unseen tapes, the GOP is actively interfering with the identification process.

Ninja’d by @Pleonast. 🙂

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ETA: In other news, Andrew Weissmann, former US Attorney and chief prosecutor for Robert Mueller, recently said on MSNBC that the thing to keep an eye on in this case right now is how swiftly or slowly the SCOTUS will rule on Judge Chutkan’s ruling in Trump’s presidential immunity motion. This is (in my view) a really bullshit motion that the SCOTUS could bat away without even taking it up for a ruling, so I agree with Weissmann that how SCOTUS handles it will tell us a lot about their inclinations to help Trump. Or not.

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> > [@JohnT](#):
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> > Mike Johnson says that future J6 video releases will have the faces blurred out to prevent “retaliatory” DOJ arrests:
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> Doesn’t the DOJ already have access to those videos in their raw unfiltered form?

Yes, but it goes further. If their images and identities are released to the public, there might be public backlash against them; you might have them threatened by liberals, putting them in danger. These are regular Americans, not unknown court staff just doing their jobs. Do you really want these people put in danger because of their actions?

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> [@Cardigan](#):
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> I believe current Republican ideology classifies that as “core political speech” and is therefore protected under the First Amendment.

And probably the Second, under some weird version of it.

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> > [@Odesio](#):
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> > > Mike Johnson says that future J6 video releases will have the faces blurred out to prevent “retaliatory” DOJ arrests:
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> > Doesn’t the DOJ already have access to those videos in their raw unfiltered form?
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> Yes, but more publicity might generate tips by people who recognize the subjects.

Then the people that submit future tapes should submit them to the DOJ instead to the HoR.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Mike Johnson says that future J6 video releases will have the faces blurred out to prevent “retaliatory” DOJ arrests:

This makes no sense to me.

Why **would** there be future J6 video releases? Why not just pretend it never happened?

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Why **would** there be future J6 video releases? Why not just pretend it never happened?

It’s more useful to cherry pick footage and craft a narrative that the Dems have overblown what happened.

Much easier to say “well sure it happened, but not the way _they_ want you to think it happened.”

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Wouldn’t this action by Mike Johnson be obstructing an investigation? I mean, yeah, I know, that’s the whole point of it and he’s enthusiastic about making sure everyone knows it - but isn’t obstruction of justice, well, _illegal_???

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> They do, but one of the most successful ways that the insurrectionists are being identified is through a casual group of internet folks called the Sedition Hunters. By depriving the Sedition Hunters of access to these previously unseen tapes, the GOP is actively interfering with the identification process.

Yup, obstruction of justice, chapter 2 in the GOP handbook.

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> > [@Cardigan](#):
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> > I believe current Republican ideology classifies that as “core political speech” and is therefore protected under the First Amendment.
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> And probably the Second, under some weird version of it.

There’s no speech more _American_ than hot lead at high velocity!

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Mike Johnson: “The release of this video footage will prove that J6 was a false-flag operation committed by antifa!”

… also Mike Johnson: “We have to blur the faces of all those involved in J6 so that patriots are not being targeted by the DOJ!”

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Gift link:

> **[Special counsel alleges Trump ‘sent’ supporters on path to Jan. 6 violence](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/12/05/trump-jan-6-violence-election-obstruction/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzAxNzUyNDAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzAzMTM0Nzk5LCJpYXQiOjE3MDE3NTI0MDAsImp0aSI6IjA5ZTM5YTljLTM1ZWEtNDZmNy04NjBiLWVjNjhjNmQ0MTZjMCIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9uYXRpb25hbC1zZWN1cml0eS8yMDIzLzEyLzA1L3RydW1wLWphbi02LXZpb2xlbmNlLWVsZWN0aW9uLW9ic3RydWN0aW9uLyJ9.7IpI0c6p06dFsmM6hp3f4aAA5KN905Pa6GJring25is&itid=gfta)**
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> Special counsel Jack Smith accused the former president of a history of election lies and threats, tying Donald Trump to ‘encouragement of violence’ more closely than in D.C. indictment.

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Mike Johnson says that future J6 video releases will have the faces blurred out to prevent “retaliatory” DOJ arrests:

Before we object too loudly, perhaps this precedent may lead to Trump’s face being blurred out in political speeches and press conferences where he often incriminates himself. I think we can all get behind that.

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