# Dollhouse 12/11 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 12, 2009, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944 "2009-12-12T01:41:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![WomanofScorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@WomanofScorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WomanofScorn)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944/21 "2009-12-14T00:16:46Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Topher released Sierra–with her original identity, Priya. She chose to visit the guy who’d had her put into the Dollhouse, to taunt him. He turned violent & she ended up killing him in self defense. Boyd & Topher turned up; Topher followed Boyd’s instructions to dispose of the corpse. They planted evidence to indicate the Dead Guy had fled across the Border. > > Priya returned to the Dollhouse & became Sierra again. For protection, in case someone decided to investigate Dead Guy’s disappearance. To forget that she’d killed someone–not something the innocent artist Priya could laugh off, even if he was a raping bastard who was trying to kill her. And because Victor was there; the Dollhouse has not been able to erase their love. I remember that now. Man, I forgot all of that. Thanks for refreshing my memory! ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944/22 "2009-12-14T03:27:16Z")
> [@WomanofScorn](#): > > Thanks for refreshing my memory! Are you ready for your treatment? ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944/23 "2009-12-14T16:30:26Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > No, that’s exactly what happened; you didn’t miss a thing. There was also a “three months later” text on the screen as part of the transition. Presumably this was when they hatched the plot and Echo worked her way into being a nurse to gain access to the jail. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944/24 "2009-12-14T16:52:36Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > No, that’s exactly what happened; you didn’t miss a thing. She mentions in passing that one of her personas (I think the Patton Oswalt character’s wife) had been a nurse. We never see her meeting Ballard. > > I actually kind of liked the fact that the plot is moving along at such a nice clip. Right, but having been a nurse doesn’t mean that an emergency room or a prison is suddenly going to let you be a nurse that works on these patients. There is a protocol for that sort of thing. It kind of seemed like, “Well we don’t know how to write this, so lets just not.” I don’t mind the fast pace, but that in particular ruined my suspension of disbelief. Also, the reason it’s moving so fast is because the show is cancelled. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944/25 "2009-12-14T17:28:29Z")
> [@justafriend](#): > > I’m very glad that Joss is getting a chance to actually wrap up this show and bring it to a satisfying end. I guess Fox is doing it right this time. But Alpha lived, right? I wonder if he’ll get killed before the end of the show. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944/26 "2009-12-14T18:46:51Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Right, but having been a nurse doesn’t mean that an emergency room or a prison is suddenly going to let you be a nurse that works on these patients. There is a protocol for that sort of thing. It kind of seemed like, “Well we don’t know how to write this, so lets just not.” > > I don’t mind the fast pace, but that in particular ruined my suspension of disbelief. Also, the reason it’s moving so fast is because the show is cancelled. What suspension of disbelief is necessary? In the three intervening months, she faked herself up an ID (as we know she can do) and applied for and got a job as a nurse, having both fake credentials and actual nursing knowledge. Then, when it came time for daring prison break, she mildly poisoned the nurse who normally does the prison run so that it would fall to her. ---
**Author:** ![WomanofScorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@WomanofScorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WomanofScorn)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944/27 "2009-12-14T21:15:09Z")
> [@Turek](#): > > Are you ready for your treatment? Oh I see what you did there… and yes. ---
**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944/28 "2009-12-14T21:32:54Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > What suspension of disbelief is necessary? In the three intervening months, she faked herself up an ID (as we know she can do) and applied for and got a job as a nurse, having both fake credentials and actual nursing knowledge. > > Then, when it came time for daring prison break, she mildly poisoned the nurse who normally does the prison run so that it would fall to her. Beyond this, due to Ballard and Boyd’s cooperation, she probably had access to most of the dollhouse resources anyway…so faking up a set of credentials wouldn’t be as hard. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944/29 "2009-12-15T04:21:47Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > But Alpha lived, right? I wonder if he’ll get killed before the end of the show. In Epitaph One: Echo says Alpha is helping creating the place safe from the mindwipes. Of course, Joss said that all the “memories” can be misleading. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944/30 "2009-12-16T11:15:07Z")
Was there a greater purpose to her saving that woman from prison? Or was it just “let’s see if I can test out my personality-swapping skills so I can be my own A-team and hatch an escape”? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944/31 "2009-12-16T15:56:19Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Was there a greater purpose to her saving that woman from prison? Or was it just “let’s see if I can test out my personality-swapping skills so I can be my own A-team and hatch an escape”? Not a \*greater \*purpose, just getting Galena out because Echo got her in. Galena had food stamps, she could have gone to another store IF Echo hadn’t shoplifted and gotten her ito trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944/32 "2009-12-16T16:49:26Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I actually kind of liked the fact that the plot is moving along at such a nice clip. Me too. Both seasons have followed the same annoying trend of having non-arc-related problem-of-the-week episodes for the first half\*, then blasting into the greater arc for the second half. I had to force myself to watch during the first season, and while it did pay off, I can see why ratings were so low. Such a shame because it averages out to be a great show. \*-I have the same issues with _Wonderfalls_, _Pushing Daisies_, and this past season of _Supernatural_. I don’t care about whatever random yutz you’re helping out this week! There’s more important shit going on, and I wanna see where _that_ goes! ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944/33 "2009-12-18T23:42:09Z")
Is there any place to see Epitaph One without buying a bunch of DVDs? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944/34 "2009-12-19T03:14:22Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > Is there any place to see Epitaph One without buying a bunch of DVDs? Just get the individual disk from Netflix? ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944/35 "2009-12-19T07:33:23Z")
It’s on itunes with the rest of season 1. ---
**Author:** ![Windwalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5e9695/32.png) [@Windwalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Windwalker)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944/36 "2010-01-09T09:36:32Z")
Anyone else find the whole first confrontation with Alpha on the roof to be more than a little ridiculous? They had so many chances to shoot him, and especially right when he threw the detonator, all it would have taken is for one of those guys to pull the trigger and THEN duck and run. Aren’t police/etc trained to shoot immediately upon any sudden movement under those circumstances? Especially considering how dangerous he was. And of course Alpha was more than a little stupid intentionally putting himself in that situation in the first place. But other than that, a very nice pair of episodes that really is paving the way for Epitaph One. I really would like to see the aftermath of the tech going public, and each episode that comes makes me more and more sad that we’ll never get that third season. Also, I thin Adele has something up her sleeve; no way she really gave the correct blueprints to Rossum… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-12-11/520944.md?page=1)