# Dollhouse April 3rd 2009 - "Needs" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 4, 2009, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-april-3rd-2009-needs/491927 "2009-04-04T00:41:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-april-3rd-2009-needs/491927/21 "2009-04-06T17:59:59Z")
Just caught it on DVR yesterday. Again, really liked it - it doesn’t standalone (sorry **elelle**!) but it was meaty and interesting in its contribution to the longer story arc that appears to be playing out. The most interesting to me was Sierra simply because she came across as very weak and whiny in her various Active roles, then when we heard her natural voice/accent, coupled with her exotic (to me) looks, she came across as pretty badass, then it turns out that her backstory is to deal with being raped and abused, even while demonstrating strenght after confronting the evil rich guy with a strong No apprently in her past. So her being raped while in the Dollhouse is just another layer on all that - lots of character-specific complexity and TONS to work with in terms of commenting on how people (and in our society, this leans towards women) are used by other people and sex is used to gain power over others. Tough topics - could make for great drama. But with FOX already messing with it - jeez, we had to wait like 3 - 4 ep’s just to feel like Joss’s work was even apparent in the series - I won’t hold my breath about seeing all this great potential… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-april-3rd-2009-needs/491927/22 "2009-04-08T05:18:42Z")
> [@simster](#): > > And that’s the thing I like - they ‘think’ they are in control of the actives - but I’ll bet Topher had to change his undies - no way they could have prepared for the shooting - otherwise they would have had blanks - and I’m pretty sure that one handler was retired. The one Caroline might have killed in the gun room? WordMan, I think you’ve forgotten about Sierra killing the kidnappers in the first episode ([that thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=506307&highlight=Dollhouse)) Was Victor mumbling Pi sequence to avoid getting an erection in the shower? The sound on my dvr was not good. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-april-3rd-2009-needs/491927/23 "2009-04-08T05:21:14Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > Was Victor mumbling Pi sequence to avoid getting an erection in the shower? The sound on my dvr was not good. He was muttering baseball facts. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-april-3rd-2009-needs/491927/24 "2009-04-08T06:46:16Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > He was muttering baseball facts. The 86 Mets lineup to be exact. I love Victor, he really needs a showcase episode all his own like Xander got with “The Zeppo”. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-april-3rd-2009-needs/491927/25 "2009-04-08T12:57:22Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > The one Caroline might have killed in the gun room? > WordMan, I think you’ve forgotten about Sierra killing the kidnappers in the first episode ([that thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=506307&highlight=Dollhouse)) > Was Victor mumbling Pi sequence to avoid getting an erection in the shower? The sound on my dvr was not good. Oh - good call; thanks. I thought I heard him doing the classic “not think about sex thing”: going through a baseball line-up, I wanna say the Mets… ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-april-3rd-2009-needs/491927/26 "2009-04-08T13:09:16Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > \*\*The one Caroline might have killed in the gun room? \*\*WordMan, I think you’ve forgotten about Sierra killing the kidnappers in the first episode ([that thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=506307&highlight=Dollhouse)) > Was Victor mumbling Pi sequence to avoid getting an erection in the shower? The sound on my dvr was not good. (bolding mine) - Yes… ---
**Author:** ![Dolukhanova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c68b51/32.png) [@Dolukhanova](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dolukhanova)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-april-3rd-2009-needs/491927/27 "2009-04-15T20:09:58Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > The 86 Mets lineup to be exact. I love Victor, he really needs a showcase episode all his own like Xander got with “The Zeppo”. Yeah, but I could swear I heard him say Mookie Wilson was in left field. And Mookie, of course, was a center fielder. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-april-3rd-2009-needs/491927/28 "2009-04-15T20:22:28Z")
> [@Dolukhanova](#): > > Yeah, but I could swear I heard him say Mookie Wilson was in left field. And Mookie, of course, was a center fielder. Well, he \*was \*distracted. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-april-3rd-2009-needs/491927/29 "2009-04-15T21:02:40Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > Well, he \*was \*distracted. I’m assuming by Echo and Mellie, because next to those two, Sierra just looks strange. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-april-3rd-2009-needs/491927/30 "2009-04-16T02:57:19Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > I’m assuming by Echo and Mellie, because next to those two, Sierra just looks strange. I _like_ Sierra’s looks. Does anyone know the ethnic background of the actress? ---
**Author:** ![infinitii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e8c25b/32.png) [@infinitii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/infinitii)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-april-3rd-2009-needs/491927/31 "2009-04-16T03:01:35Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > I _like_ Sierra’s looks. Does anyone know the ethnic background of the actress? Tibetan and Australian. I really like her as well. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2009, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-april-3rd-2009-needs/491927/32 "2009-04-16T03:24:28Z")
> [@infinitii](#): > > Tibetan and Australian. I really like her as well. Huh. Interesting! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-april-3rd-2009-needs/491927.md?page=1)