# Dollhouse Mar 27 2009: Echoes

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 28, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-mar-27-2009-echoes/491052 "2009-03-28T01:29:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Atrael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Atrael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atrael)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-mar-27-2009-echoes/491052/61 "2009-03-31T14:37:42Z")

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> [@Kaio](#):
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> Well, they were clear that it wasn’t airborne – it was spreading way too slowly for that. Touching a surface might make sense. Or perhaps he touched the blood on the floor. (Although I wonder if it would pass through latex gloves, or if it has to be skin-to-skin contact. Yes I know I’m over-thinking this. 🙂 ) Or perhaps he just touched one of the students while making sure that CDC-Sierra was properly set up in the containment/frat house.

ALthough I can’t rewatch the episode, did the first two students that walked in on the first guy actually touch him before they started acting loopy? I figured that he had all those flies that he was letting go around the lab. So could the drug have been spread that way? Bunch of flies landed on the first guy, then every other person they land on gets infected?

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**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-mar-27-2009-echoes/491052/62 "2009-03-31T15:21:59Z")

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> [@Kaio](#):
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> Dushku looked good in that outfit. It was a little bit sexy, and a little bit just fun. It wasn’t trampy. If people are bringing baggage to it, it ain’t the fault of the dress.

I thought the dress was perfect for Alice. She looked like a “nice” girl dressing up a little trampy for a new boyfriend/crush.

**Atrael** , yes, they both did. The LabGirl touched FliesBeFree on the arm trying to get his attention, and when FliesBeFree went for the window, ShouldHaveSpentMoreTimeShirtless’s hands were shown on his shoulder trying to pull him away.  
The only person who we never saw being infected was Dominic, but he must have touched something in the lab, or be infected by an as-yet-symptom-less doll.

Sorry about my alphabetical failure yesterday.

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**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-mar-27-2009-echoes/491052/63 "2009-03-31T15:21:59Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> So in keeping with their NATO phonetic alphabet aliases, do you think the new guy will be named ‘Zulu’ or would that be racial?

I wouldn’t put it past Joss to name the new guy ‘Juliet’ and have him be a butt-kicking Chuck Norris type.

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**Author:** ![Kaio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c68b51/32.png) [@Kaio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaio)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-mar-27-2009-echoes/491052/64 "2009-03-31T16:40:21Z")

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> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#):
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> I thought the dress was perfect for Alice. She looked like a “nice” girl dressing up a little trampy for a new boyfriend/crush.

That’s pretty much what I thought. Who doesn’t dress up a bit when trying to impress your new date?

I dispute the “trampy” as I’ve said – you can dress up to be a touch extra sexy without turning yourself into a “tramp.” Trampy would require about 90% more exposed skin. 😛

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> FliesBeFree

This nearly made me snarf my coffee. 😃

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**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-mar-27-2009-echoes/491052/65 "2009-03-31T20:56:55Z")

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> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#):
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> …ShouldHaveSpentMoreTimeShirtless..

Amen. I about squeed when I saw that he was going to (probably) be back. Because. . .wow. Really, really hot.

That being said, it seems like his story serves as a bit of a contrast to Echo’s. She broke in to try and document the company’s wrongs; he went in to make a quick buck. Her motivations, however, seemed to be to make herself important, to make a difference; his were help out his mother.

It’s just interesting, morally speaking.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2009, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-mar-27-2009-echoes/491052/66 "2009-04-01T15:13:52Z")

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In retrospect, it seems oddly heavy-handed for Whedon to name the evil corporation Rossum, as in [Rossum’s Universal Robots](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.U.R._(Rossum%27s_Universal_Robots)). Is he just being cute here, or is he making a point with this allusion?

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dollhouse-mar-27-2009-echoes/491052/67 "2009-04-03T06:27:42Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> Victor definitely comes after Sierra.  
> If he’s a gentleman.

You aren’t trying to win the thread, are you? You’re trying to win all future _Dollhouse_ threads.

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